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  • Michael
    started a topic Linux Gaming Thoughts

    Linux Gaming Thoughts

    From a reader...

    Originally posted by Scott
    When will we have real gaming on Linux?

    This is, I suppose, a rhetorical question, but if there is any new news, I'd love to hear it. I've been a Windows user for years, solely because of games. If Linux could just gather its forces and address this one issue, I could cross over.

    However, to the best of my knowledge, Linux isn't getting anywhere with gaming, and that's due to Linux's main undermining flaws: 1) lack of focused effort, and 2) lack of desire on the part of developers to be a mainstream solution. (The whole Cedega/Wine affair is not a proper solution, by the way. It's baling wire and duct tape.)

    It would seem that the present time would be excellent for a concerted effort to supply game developers with a tool package that would facilitate the dual development of games for Linux and DirectX 10. I know that AMD/ATI has contributed one part that might help, a HLSL2GLSL tool, but I imagine a lot more has to be done, including hand-holding of developers.

    I believe that if Linux could get games running natively, with push-button installation / de-installation and all the bells and whistles, then Linux could really take off. It seems to me that with online retailing, broadband connections for downloads, automatic updates, dual core computing, virtualization (?), better graphics drivers on Linux, and so on, this must be the best time there has ever been for this type of endeavor.

    And if the Linux community isn't interested in this, I wish they would just pack up and go home. I know that sounds harsh, but by chronically doing nothing they are doing more harm than good. People think Linux is going to provide an alternative to MS - I hear it all the time - but if it won't address the concerns of the mainstream, then it isn't ever going to be a credible alternative. All it is doing is reinforcing the MS monopoly by sucking up the time and interest of people who do want a credible alternative.

    Sorry if that sounded a bit like a rant.

    There's no need to answer this email, but if the idea sparks an article, editorial, or a good remark in the right ear, then I've fulfilled my purpose.

  • EagleDM
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    " single focused effort is just so not-linux. linux is all about a hundred crappy ways rather than one polished"

    Pardon me, but I disagree your comments.

    I'm actually using Ubuntu Gutsy with Compiz Fusion, Fusion is a well example of how can the world of Linux unify with a common goal, as of today, pretty much all distros coming out support Fusion "out of the box" including in LiveCD (mandriva 2008 for example).

    This were not possible before, because we had Beryl (very tricky and sometimes very unstable and Compiz that was pretty basic) now we have Fusion, that, as of today is the most impressive piece of programming i've seen, the current stable release is SO stable that I've been using it since gutsy day 1 with a dual-monitor equipment and multiple virtualization scenarios with virtualbox, movies and 3D (including Quake4) works like a charm with Fusion active.

    So, do not allow you to "generalize" the Linux world as "a bunch of crappy ways of doing the same.

    I think we are approaching the era in which Linux will meet standards (at least basic in some things) and Ubuntu is one hell of a distro to set standards, I think Linux Gaming will born from Ubuntu, but hey, that just my intuition.


    Sorry for not introducing myself, I work for a hardware reviews site in which I review all kinds of hardware and Im involved in doing beta testing for a new Engine it is coming (my brother is programming it), ive been in the world of technology from quite some time now.
    my website is at: www.maximopc.org (it is in spanish, but, quality material nevertheless)

    My introduction came because i am very open to HELP the linux community in any way I can, the next hardware testing will be done with linux on it, and we are trying to develop a simple way of benchmark/test with linux in our reviews, just like phoronix do.

    Congrats on the page, my name is daniel and i hope to be in this community for a long time.

    PD: excellent topic, keep up the good work.

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  • Svartalf
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    Originally posted by supergamer View Post
    It could with an install of wine I believe. I did not include wine by default to showcase linux games
    And those of us who work on Native Linux games thank you for that...

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  • supergamer
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    It could with an install of wine I believe. I did not include wine by default to showcase linux games

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  • ap90033
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    Originally posted by supergamer View Post
    No, I make the SuperGamer. We where the first to go over the 2gb limit of squash with the pclinuxos SG1 and then an update to it. We also had been releasing versions in-house for a few years. The current version is SuperGamer-VL as we used Vector as a base and changed from KDE to XFCE to ease up on some system resources.
    Coolies, does Crysis or Command and Conquer 3 work in your OS. That would be sweet...

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  • Thetargos
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    Originally posted by supergamer View Post
    No, I make the SuperGamer. We where the first to go over the 2gb limit of squash with the pclinuxos SG1 and then an update to it. We also had been releasing versions in-house for a few years. The current version is SuperGamer-VL as we used Vector as a base and changed from KDE to XFCE to ease up on some system resources.
    Excellent. I will have to give it a try, will google it up.

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  • supergamer
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    No, I make the SuperGamer. We where the first to go over the 2gb limit of squash with the pclinuxos SG1 and then an update to it. We also had been releasing versions in-house for a few years. The current version is SuperGamer-VL as we used Vector as a base and changed from KDE to XFCE to ease up on some system resources.

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  • Thetargos
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    When do you plan to release the next version? I'm assuming you are talking about the Linux Gamers LiveDVD?

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  • supergamer
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    We are quietly changing the way people look at gaming and linux with our livedvd releases. I was the first to release such a livedvd and we set the bar up pretty dang high and with the newer release we have been pretty lucky for the low amount of bug reports. The revolution is just around the corner with alot more games being ported to linux and we will be the first to dual layer a livedvd

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  • yoshi314
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    I agree about linux being an alternative to windows.
    "alternative" - yes. "clone" - NO.

    linux is all about a hundred crappy ways rather than one polished.
    diversity leads to competition. when one solution gets better, it quickly gains more interest and developers.

    it's better this way, because it's a "survival of the fittest" kind of software selection. the more competition - the better.

    the most adaptative (good codebase) and innovative (good solutions) and most robust (decent developer team) projects survive it. community is left with a handful of projects that are most fit for the task. and they get the most attention and eventually get decently polished.

    it also works in proprietary world. competition is GOOD, because it kills monopoly.

    think about it - how would windows look today if it didn't feel the competition closing in on it? how would linux look if it didn't have to constantly fight for its market share?

    i doubt xp/ new nt versions would be so popular if it weren't for microsoft feeling threatened by linux or similar operating systems and making an effort to do actually do something better that winME (although they felt overly confident when they did vista .... too bad ) :]

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