WinXP 17.3%, Win10 8%... Sounds legit. With these figures I wouldn't care to much about these "statistics".
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Originally posted by debianxfce View Post"Windows 8 at 0.7%, Windows 7 at 65.9%, Windows XP at 17.3%, Windows 10 "
Poor windows religious users, they do not know that there is something better. I will give a Debian Xfce live dvd to my aunt, she is suffering from slow boot and shutdown and win10 upgrade ads in her win7 laptop.
I working with MacOS, Mate, Xfce, Gnome, KDE and if you are heavy GUI user as im there inst nothing better than customized Windows with Total Commander, Display Fusion, Filemenu Tools, Filebox extender atd other utils, Visual Studio is still best IDE for advanced coder and with cygwin and putty is still best experience.
I gave my mother Ubuntu too, because she just need to boot into Firefox it was good enough for most of time, but:
- something she was stuck with some tutorial for average users, only described only for Windows
- because of Linux EXT4 bug, she was 2 weeks offline, because booted into busy box.. and i cant fix it remotely
- she just needed to upload pictures from camera and phone - and windows just not open after device was connected => dead end
- flash upgrade issue, i age of flash only youtube
Those problems werent worthy of save 100 bucks, even without visits - my 5 years old nephew also want to play Rayman and Cars..
I wasnt even 100 bought old XP copy for just $50.
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Originally posted by ruthan View PostEmpty argument, if you need gaming, Linux is still disaster, Mac OS is a bit better, but only real choice are Windows or Console, or maybe SteamOS if you dont care that in your collection is only 1/4 of Windows games.
there inst nothing better than customized Windows with Total Commander, Display Fusion, Filemenu Tools, Filebox extender atd other utils, Visual Studio is still best IDE for advanced coder and with cygwin and putty is still best experience.
I gave my mother Ubuntu too, because she just need to boot into Firefox it was good enough for most of time, but:
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If you knew remotely accessing was going to be a problem, you should've had the foresight to port forward ssh.
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I have quite a few U3D games in my Steam library. I know some of them won't work for me under Linux with Open driver because of the issues I have mentioned around 500x throughout this site. I will give them another go once my videocard comes back to me, Wasteland2 for example is U3D, I also have some Shadow Land of some sort but that crashes on startup. (most games will start with FGLRX driver when I use to have that, but performance was very poor).
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Unity Linux support is extremely poor and pretty much an afterthought. The only "Linux" they support is Ubuntu and the support is almost unofficial. *
Perhaps this could be the main contributing factor as to why Unity is failing in the Linux market?
*The Linux editor support is almost non-existent.
I am hoping Unity will be gone in a couple of years. I really do dislike it and find it a big waste of time for developers. The only thing it has going for it is a very large marketing budget towards the "prosumers".Last edited by kpedersen; 31 March 2016, 05:25 PM.
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Originally posted by theriddick View PostThat may be so, but I will tell you this, without manually setting the power states of my 390x under Linux with the standard package driver results in freezes and system restart problems. NOW that I understand the problem better I can easily resolve it, but it required a fair bit of tom foolery under terminal before X start to resolve that issue.
For example, I buy only SuperMicro brand motherboards, because they explicitly state Red Hat Enterprise Linux support for their hardware. That's the distro I use, so I know it will work 100% straight out of the box, with no tinkering and no issues.
Example #2, I use only NVidia graphics cards (even though I dislike using a closed binary blob) because my hardware and OS are explicitly supported - I know it's going to work 100% right out of the box, no surprises, no tinkering.
There are a number of vendors that sell laptops and workstations with Linux pre-installed and fully supported. Buying from one of them is a sure bet for a fully supported and working no-tinkering-required system. Just as buying a Windows peecee from Dell you know the hardware will be 100% compatible with Windows, or buying a computer from Apple, you know it'll run OSX 100% with no issues.Last edited by torsionbar28; 31 March 2016, 07:10 PM.
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UPDATE: Yeah, according to GamingOnLinux.com's article, they're not making any attempt to control for the large number of Unity games that are limited to one platform.
...which means these stats are worthless at determining Linux market share because:
1. The data they released is too processed for us to filter it to only the games that are available on multiple platforms.
2. It says nothing about all the people playing non-Unity games (eg. MonoGame, Unreal 4, etc.) ...which also could introduce an unknown amount of skew, depending on how much of that "I'll play something else. These Unity developers never tested their push-button Linux build before releasing it" is just bluster.
3. As mentioned, the Unity browser plugin was never available for Linux (and I know a lot of people, myself included, who either never knew about pipelight or considered it too much bother when other games exist)
(Plus, of course, the dubious utility of the more detailed information, given that over 80% of Linux users are on "unknown" rather than Ubuntu/Mint/etc. and the suspiciously distributed percentages for the various Windows versions.)
Heck, I'm not sure what they would be useful for. Developers would want to know how much effort to put into various platforms, but this survey can't be used for that. Similar problem for users. This survey is like those old GeoCities-era vanity visitor counters.
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