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  • phoronix
    started a topic Epic Games Does Suppress Linux Talk

    Epic Games Does Suppress Linux Talk

    Phoronix: Epic Games Does Suppress Linux Talk

    Last week we shared the sad reality about Unreal Tournament 3 that it's been 5 months and there's still no Linux client. There's not even any sign that the game client will still be made available for Linux once their "legal" problems are resolved...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NjQ0Mg

  • deanjo
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    May 19th, 6 months and still no joy.

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  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by Shakey_Jake33 View Post
    Look at it this way - would you want your movies or music to have to authenticate online before you can use them? The only difference with games is that the PC medium makes it easier to do so, it doesn't make it any more right or consumer friendly. And ultimately, they're not doing it for our sake, and it sure as hell won't curb piracy (Steam games will be, and will continue to be cracked - and these illegit copies will be easier to use because the lack the need to authenticate, ironically). I think the content delivery itself is brilliant, but the authentication serves no purpose.

    Why not? It's more incentive to give people net access where ever they are . In this day and age, a non connected computer is a extremely limited device.

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  • Shakey_Jake33
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    Look at it this way - would you want your movies or music to have to authenticate online before you can use them? The only difference with games is that the PC medium makes it easier to do so, it doesn't make it any more right or consumer friendly. And ultimately, they're not doing it for our sake, and it sure as hell won't curb piracy (Steam games will be, and will continue to be cracked - and these illegit copies will be easier to use because the lack the need to authenticate, ironically). I think the content delivery itself is brilliant, but the authentication serves no purpose.

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  • Thetargos
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    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    Well said, simply put, you don't like it, then don't support it.

    I personally see nothing wrong with steam even with DRM intact. Ideally I wish the world would wake up and software engines and executables would be all be opensource with only the creative content having restrictions placed on it if wished like what id does with it's older engines but we are a long ways from that being accepted as a standard. I can't help but wonder how many less buggy games there would be if that business model was adapted.
    It would actually be cool if Steam could be "broken down" to its delivery mechanism and its authentication system to be less intrusive. For example, it would be awesome if the web site could be use to authenticate an installation and not require the service to authenticate the copy prior running the program, but use a client as a sorts of e-store client to buy and download games, having the client be open source (to reassure customers about no extra info being sent). I don't think it'll ever happen, but "I'm a dreamer".

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  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by Thetargos View Post
    Free software is about Freedom, even if you choose to renounce to those freedoms under certain circumstances, it remains your freedom to do so. I don't like Steam one bit, but as a delivery system it has proven to be reliable, nothing more.
    Well said, simply put, you don't like it, then don't support it.

    I personally see nothing wrong with steam even with DRM intact. Ideally I wish the world would wake up and software engines and executables would be all be opensource with only the creative content having restrictions placed on it if wished like what id does with it's older engines but we are a long ways from that being accepted as a standard. I can't help but wonder how many less buggy games there would be if that business model was adapted.

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  • Thetargos
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    Originally posted by xav1r View Post
    Steam is DRM, which is about limiting your choice. Linux is free software/open source, which is everything about choice. So both won't go together.
    Free software is about Freedom, even if you choose to renounce to those freedoms under certain circumstances, it remains your freedom to do so. I don't like Steam one bit, but as a delivery system it has proven to be reliable, nothing more.

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  • xav1r
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    Steam is DRM, which is about limiting your choice. Linux is free software/open source, which is everything about choice. So both won't go together.

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  • Shakey_Jake33
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    I'm not even naive enough to expect it to be open source (though that would be ideal!), but the entire concept of having to register as part of a service, and use a client that has to call home every time we dare to use our own legally purchased software, it represents everything that I left Windows for in the first place. It's a shame because I'm all for digital distribution, removing the increasingly redundant processes that make up the traditional physical content distribution systems, essentially being propped up by the existing industry to save having to invest money into moving with the market changes and consumer desires.
    Last edited by Shakey_Jake33; 04-29-2008, 12:35 PM.

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  • Fixxer_Linux
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    Originally posted by Thetargos View Post
    Yes, Steam as a service is crap, as a delivery mechanism could be useful, but still leaves you wondering what kind of information such a service is "phoning home", not to mention the potential resource hogging it may be in Linux, and what it is on Windows.
    I don't mind using steam with Linux as long as it's made open-source and therefore I'm sure that :
    no information is send over the net against my will, no adverts are made for games that I don't care (pop-ups are as annoying as they are frequent in steam and in Windows in general).

    Steam made open-source. This could be a april's fool post title !

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