Sony Open-Sources A Universal Game Level Editor

[Luke_Wolf]

Winforms implementation is quite shitty in Linux. And MS promise about patents does not covers WinForms, so it's not like if someone going to supply it by default or warmly welcome it.

So, basically, chosen approach is utterly hostile to Linux. Do you honestly think people will be optimistic about use of foreign runtimes with ton of problems, downloading hundreds megs of libs just for this program ... just to get idea it only uses API which is useless under Linux anyway? So I generally fail to see point to "port" this sfutt to Linux. Anyhow serious and quality port would result in almost complete rewrite and if you're serious about writting level editor for Linux, there're far less hostile ways to write cross-platform program. Say, something like Qt can use native-looking widgets and lacks zillion of bugs. And even offers some OpenGL support. And best of all - virtually all features are working the same way on all supported platforms and it looking like native app. Something that .net fails to achieve all the time they mumble about being cross-platform.

While I admittedly haven't spent that much time combing over their codebase, them using winforms is honestly not a big deal. Unless they're using some sort of custom widgets it should be pretty easy to change the codebase to use GTK# instead, if you're so worried about the winforms implementation. If they are using custom widgets they'd just have to be reimplemented which even then won't be a serious problem. The trouble as I said will be with the Direct3D backend which will need to be rewritten into OpenGL.

[0xBADCODE]

Actually they're using WinForms so it should be fine, the main issue is going to be the direct3d

Winforms implementation is quite shitty in Linux. And MS promise about patents does not covers WinForms, so it's not like if someone going to supply it by default or warmly welcome it.

So, basically, chosen approach is utterly hostile to Linux. Do you honestly think people will be optimistic about use of foreign runtimes with ton of problems, downloading hundreds megs of libs just for this program ... just to get idea it only uses API which is useless under Linux anyway? So I generally fail to see point to "port" this sfutt to Linux. Anyhow serious and quality port would result in almost complete rewrite and if you're serious about writting level editor for Linux, there're far less hostile ways to write cross-platform program. Say, something like Qt can use native-looking widgets and lacks zillion of bugs. And even offers some OpenGL support. And best of all - virtually all features are working the same way on all supported platforms and it looking like native app. Something that .net fails to achieve all the time they mumble about being cross-platform.

[curaga]

Mono's WinForms support improved and Phoronix didn't report about it? I find that hard to believe.

[Luke_Wolf]

So the only way you can "port it to Linux" is by ... completely rewriting it. C# lacks cross-platform set of widgets anyway, so there is very little reason to use it under Linux at all.

Actually they're using WinForms so it should be fine, the main issue is going to be the direct3d

[zerothis]

PoxNora
Grim Fandango
LevelEditor
Android
Bullet
Well SONY, you're way ahead of EA now.

[0xBADCODE]

LevelEditor is written in C# and uses Direct3D.

So the only way you can "port it to Linux" is by ... completely rewriting it. C# lacks cross-platform set of widgets anyway, so there is very little reason to use it under Linux at all.

[stiiixy]

sheesh, need to offer few prayers in thanks for my madness then, i like surreal world more

People were always calling me bat-shit crazy. Now I know why! =D

[justmy2cents]

Why not? It works just fine. Unless you're a Linux or Mac crazy person. The real world runs on Windows, after all.

sheesh, need to offer few prayers in thanks for my madness then, i like surreal world more

[Nth_man]

The real world runs on Windows, after all.

We keep hearing how GNU/Linux is a niche system, but the analyst that takes as parameter the desktop installations to measure its success, or he is completely blind, or he is a clumsy manipulator: desktops and laptops are a tiny subset of all the devices that can keep a running operating system inside. Not counting domestic appliances, routers, switches, servers, remote controls, clusters, GPS, supercomputers, and finally, the largest group of all, mobile phones, is ignoring more than ninety percent of the market.

-- Paul C. Brown. Editor of Linux Magazine Spain. September 2009.

[RealNC]

why did they bother making this in Direct X?

Why not? It works just fine. Unless you're a Linux or Mac crazy person. The real world runs on Windows, after all.