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  • #51
    Originally posted by dee. View Post
    Considering I never called anyone unprofessional, I think one could state you are confusing implication with inference.
    Implied as in saying in an implicit way, not as a logical implication. You know, the opposite of explicit.

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    • #52
      Hopes for SteamOS? Why Would I Have Hopes?

      I am not so excited by Valve's efforts, monumental though they are. My wishes are purely selfish when it comes to gaming on Linux. So does SteamOS solve my biggest bugbears with Linux gaming? Based on the info there is so far I can complete my simple checklist:

      * Will it bring my favorite AAA tittles to my Linux desktop? - Unlikely. they *might* come to SteamOS.
      * Will I be able to game with my friends without dual booting - Unlikely if I need to install SteamOS in order to play the games.
      * Could I use SteamOS as a real Linux desktop? - Who knows.

      From my own standpoint, there is nothing in the SteamOS announcement that makes me jump for joy or believe that Linux is really the future of gaming just yet. Maybe in a few years when the requisite development has been done and the SteamOS/Linux gaming market has taken shape, I will be able to see where it is going. Only then will I have something to buy into. But right now it offers me nothing more than idle curiosity. That said, Kyle Orland of Arstechnica hit the nail on the head: "If anyone has the clout to drag the gaming industry towards Linux, it's Valve."

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      • #53
        Originally posted by ronybeck View Post
        I am not so excited by Valve's efforts, monumental though they are. My wishes are purely selfish when it comes to gaming on Linux. So does SteamOS solve my biggest bugbears with Linux gaming? Based on the info there is so far I can complete my simple checklist:

        * Will it bring my favorite AAA tittles to my Linux desktop? - Unlikely. they *might* come to SteamOS.
        * Will I be able to game with my friends without dual booting - Unlikely if I need to install SteamOS in order to play the games.
        * Could I use SteamOS as a real Linux desktop? - Who knows.

        From my own standpoint, there is nothing in the SteamOS announcement that makes me jump for joy or believe that Linux is really the future of gaming just yet. Maybe in a few years when the requisite development has been done and the SteamOS/Linux gaming market has taken shape, I will be able to see where it is going. Only then will I have something to buy into. But right now it offers me nothing more than idle curiosity. That said, Kyle Orland of Arstechnica hit the nail on the head: "If anyone has the clout to drag the gaming industry towards Linux, it's Valve."
        I agree with your three points. I think valve will be the ones to drag the gaming industry towards Linux. But I don't think it will be a smooth ride.

        Originally posted by johnc View Post
        That isn't a particularly controversial claim since nvidia doesn't even have an APU yet. Unless you consider this Maxwell stuff (which won't be shipping for awhile) and since it's not based on x86, it's somewhat less relevant.

        It does seem likely that the Steam Box could be AMD hardware which is frankly astonishing to me considering AMD has basically no Linux presence, pretty awful GPU drivers and horrible video playback options. But I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
        Well apparently the steam box will be a live gaming machine. I've also read someone stating that it's running Tegra 5 hardware. Have a look at this:

        Originally posted by johnc View Post
        Looking forward to tomorrow's announcement... I'll take a stab in the dark and say that the low-end, streaming-only device is going to be a Tegra 5. NVIDIA did a lot of work with Valve to do their Shield streaming (I think it only works with Steam?) and Valve has already talked about this feature w/ SteamOS... so the partnership isn't completely impossible. And if it's a streaming-only device it probably wouldn't need an Intel CPU.

        What's you guys thinkin?
        Last edited by b15hop; 24 September 2013, 11:39 PM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by b15hop View Post
          Well apparently the steam box will be a live gaming machine. I've also read someone stating that it's running Tegra 5 hardware. Have a look at this:
          Well if anonymous supposed-Valve employee postings on 4chan can be taken seriously, it'll have both AMD and nvidia hardware.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by johnc View Post
            Well if anonymous supposed-Valve employee postings on 4chan can be taken seriously, it'll have both AMD and nvidia hardware.
            I must admit, it's a believable leak.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by dee. View Post
              Considering I never called anyone unprofessional, I think one could state you are confusing implication with inference.
              It's pretty obvious what you were implying

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              • #57
                my hopes:
                - it's not based on ubuntu or android
                - LSB compliant
                - Steam doesn't stop supporting desktop distros because of this

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                • #58
                  My hopes would be that Valve continues on their current path of helping to improve Linux for gaming in a overall technical capacity, but more importantly (for me) is that this gaming push by Valve might result in increased resources aimed at improving the open source in-kernel drivers for discrete gpu's so that we can rid ourselves of proprietary hardware drivers and all the problems they bring (security, stability) once and for all.

                  As for Valve's intentions, it seems clear to me that they want to become the 'Android' of PC gaming. By offering the 'SteamOS' for free to third parties who can all build their own 'Steamboxes' which will then use Valve's Steam service, just like Google gives away android so that third parties will use their services (play, chrome, etc).

                  Will be interesting to see if they succeed, either way Linux has already benefited from their efforts, so thanks Valve.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Ramiliez View Post
                    DRM = no money from me and some others I think it is important for Linux community to lobby for DRM-less games.
                    Why would Valve throw away their own Steam platform to cater to a relatively small minority?

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                    • #60
                      Linuxgames...even PS4 should turn from FreeBSD to Linux.

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