Steam Linux Usage Still On The Decline

[marco26]

we all have our opinion, but I'm also a gamer and build my own computers, this time around I've built a dedicated gaming rig, and made a cheaper desktop for linux, I don't really like dual booting for a number of reasons. My gaming rig is sacred and only have installed the OS and games. I also play on linux and support it by buying games! Don?t get me wrong if I could only use linux i would, but is far beyond in terms of hardware support and easy of use. And lets face it I've bought windows 8 which is ugly and a pain to use....but is really fast! And it cost me 30$! Quiet honestly i wouldn't buy it at his current price but would still use it

But for non linux users it can be a terrible experience changing for a new OS which they know nothing about, unless it starts to ship on brand new pc's, most people will never get in to linux, spending a lot of time to learn how to use it and some times even to simply make it work.

[Gps4l]

I disagree completly. Gamers tend to be the most knowledgable group of computer users and I dont know of anyone thats into games that has not heard of Linux. Also when discussing Steam with them everyone I have talked to said they would switch if all there windows games were available. Why would they ever bother purchasing Windows again if they can get Linux for free, this being the case for the many gamers that build their own systems.
Also gamers are a fickle bunch so any performance advantages offered by Linux would get gamers to switch in a second (dual booting is very easy), in theory the open nature of the linux environment make it a perfect platform for gamers to setup a tweaked system for performance gains. All that remains is for the graphics card makers to get their act toghether (something that is already happening thanks to Valve)

Exactly !

I do not know if I am good example, but I am a gamer who build his own pc, which is dualboot.

Linux openSUSE 12.3
And w7 because of D11 and the games which aren?t ported ( yet )

[timothyja]

This! people just cannot expect that gaming on linux will ever be an alternative to windows gaming, even if there were exactly the same games on both platforms windows would be king for a long margin, because most people just don't use linux, because they don't now it or even care about it, windows is what comes with their PC's and it does the job for them.

I disagree completly. Gamers tend to be the most knowledgable group of computer users and I dont know of anyone thats into games that has not heard of Linux. Also when discussing Steam with them everyone I have talked to said they would switch if all there windows games were available. Why would they ever bother purchasing Windows again if they can get Linux for free, this being the case for the many gamers that build their own systems.
Also gamers are a fickle bunch so any performance advantages offered by Linux would get gamers to switch in a second (dual booting is very easy), in theory the open nature of the linux environment make it a perfect platform for gamers to setup a tweaked system for performance gains. All that remains is for the graphics card makers to get their act toghether (something that is already happening thanks to Valve)

[marco26]

http://www.netmarketshare.com/report...ux&qpcustomb=0

Approximate Linux Market Share: <1.5%
Approximate Steam Linus Market Share: <1.7%

Not shocked at all. If anything, the Steam usage numbers seem a bit high.

This! people just cannot expect that gaming on linux will ever be an alternative to windows gaming, even if there were exactly the same games on both platforms windows would be king for a long margin, because most people just don't use linux, because they don't now it or even care about it, windows is what comes with their PC's and it does the job for them.

[Cyber Killer]

They won't agree to it, because it will cost them a ton of money. People will buy the game, some will not like it, and try and exchange it with someone who does. That's one less sale. Publishers will NEVER agree to this.

Hell, EA left Steam simply because they didn't like Steam taking a cut of DLC sales. Don't think for a second Activison/Ubisoft wouldn't do the same.

There is more to business than simple math. A dissatisfied customer drives away many potential new customers, so being able to turn that dissatisfied to a satisfied one is well worth that single sale, cause it helps to make even more sales.

On a side note - yes I can predict that the big publishers wouldn't be so fond of such a system, but I bet that most of the indies would very gladly welcome it, as they are more concerned with people being happy with their game. And again - never say never. In my life I've met a lot of people that were so sure of what they were saying that they said that something will "never" happen, and yet it happened. It took some time (sometimes quite a lot of time), but for most things the question is not "if", only "when". Now let's end this offtopic.

[gamerk2]

http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=11&qpaf=&qpcustom=Linux&qpcustomb=0

Approximate Linux Market Share: <1.5%
Approximate Steam Linus Market Share: <1.7%

Not shocked at all. If anything, the Steam usage numbers seem a bit high.

[gamerk2]

"Dear publisher, we are implementing a system for the users to be able to sell their library games between each other. Some rules apply <insert here> and each publisher will get x% of each transaction between users. If you do not wish for the users to be able to resell games published by you, you have 2 business weeks to opt-out of this system... blah blah blah..."

Simple as that - maybe some publishers would really opt-out of this system, but that would get us at least some options of reselling the games. Also: never say never.

They won't agree to it, because it will cost them a ton of money. People will buy the game, some will not like it, and try and exchange it with someone who does. That's one less sale. Publishers will NEVER agree to this.

Hell, EA left Steam simply because they didn't like Steam taking a cut of DLC sales. Don't think for a second Activison/Ubisoft wouldn't do the same.

[moilami]

Quote Originally Posted by startzz View Post
this is the most stupid thing i've ever heard isnt linux motto "do yourself".

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I know this troll obviously has trouble with English but that sentence is a classic and probably goes right over his head. Either that or he' s a comic genius. Lol. Maybe its just my childish mind but that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Linux moto is "fuck yourself"

English is not my native language. Therefore I can't thank you enough for pointing that out since I did not see it in the first place

[Cyber Killer]

Except they would need to get permission to do so from the original license holder (the publisher) first. Multiply that by the number of different publishers on the platform, and you see why this is impossible. Hence why you will NEVER see selling games between users in Steam.

"Dear publisher, we are implementing a system for the users to be able to sell their library games between each other. Some rules apply <insert here> and each publisher will get x% of each transaction between users. If you do not wish for the users to be able to resell games published by you, you have 2 business weeks to opt-out of this system... blah blah blah..."

Simple as that - maybe some publishers would really opt-out of this system, but that would get us at least some options of reselling the games. Also: never say never.

[mike4]

I'll buy Counterstrike. All already released games look old and outdated to me...

I'm currently playing Rage and Wolfenstein on Wine.