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Originally posted by honeybadger View PostNew users shun gnu/linux ecosystem because of people like you.
I'm using Linux since 2009 and tried many of the major distributions including Slackware, Debian, Mint and OpenSuse. Shortly after introduction of Unity I switched to Ubuntu. It has apt and it's beautifull. I'm not a programmer or admin, and I use Linux on my home desktop. Ubuntu will be primary choice for people, who want to switch from Windows, and you should respect them for trying and respect Canonical for helping them.
By the way, my PC has 2 GB of ram, my Ubuntu is 32-bit and I use Nouveau driver to play indie games on steam.
I welcome diversity. I'd love to see more of it. Diversity comes in all forms... Retards and Geniuses. Biased and Unbiased. There is nothing you or I can do about it that is just the way it is.
It doesnt mean that the majority of Ubuntu users are retarded... Quite the contrary as a matter of fact... But it does mean the the majority of retarded users are Ubuntu users. If for no other reason than it is the easiest distro and most commonly available one. I say so be it, retarded or not they are perfectly welcome.Last edited by duby229; 18 March 2013, 03:40 AM.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostPlease don't misunderstand me, I'm not calling Ubuntu users retarded. Instead I'm saying that a certain percentage of any userbase is going to be retarded, and lets face it, most of that group will be using Ubuntu.
I'm using Linux since 2009 and tried many of the major distributions including Slackware, Debian, Mint and OpenSuse. Shortly after introduction of Unity I switched to Ubuntu. It has apt and it's beautifull. I'm not a programmer or admin, and I use Linux on my home desktop. Ubuntu will be primary choice for people, who want to switch from Windows, and you should respect them for trying and respect Canonical for helping them.
By the way, my PC has 2 GB of ram, my Ubuntu is 32-bit and I use Nouveau driver to play indie games on steam.
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Originally posted by alcalde View PostI have a gifted laptop from circa 2005 with an AMD Sempron processor (32-bit, 1 core), 512MB RAM and a 4200rpm 75GB IDE hard drive. Needless to say, Windows 8 isn't much of an option here. However, I just installed the new OpenSUSE 12.3 on it and the machine is quite usable (so long as you don't want to run lots of programs or browser tabs at once). In fact, I can run XBMC on it and its ATI (yes, ATI, not AMD) 200M (X300) graphics. It can play back 720p video files too - granted with no video acceleration and just about 100% CPU usage, but it works! Web browsing, Marble, Google Earth, Eric5 IDE and python coding... I can even use WINE to run games up to circa '98/'99 like Dungeon Keeper II and Half Life.
I have to go on overnight trips every few months and having this old laptop in a functional state is a lot better than not having a laptop at all. Please don't start asking people to kill off support for 32bit just yet. Why, it was just last year Linux killed off 80386 support! :-) Besides, there's a bazillion embedded controllers, including x86 controllers, kiosks, ATMs, etc. that are 32 bit that Linux needs to run on.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostPlease don't misunderstand me, I'm not calling Ubuntu users retarded. Instead I'm saying that a certain percentage of any userbase is going to be retarded, and lets face it, most of that group will be using Ubuntu.Or as the joke goes: "What's the difference between an Ubuntu user and an AOL user? Ten years. "
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Dont have fits over 32 bits
Originally posted by elanthis View PostIt's somewhat annoying to me that the major distros even keep making 32-bit x86 releases... Still, I can't imagine a sizable portion of users are upgrading to the latest Fedora/Ubuntu or Windows on ancient hardware; I'm sure it happens (someone here will claim they do it, surely), but happens enough to be worth caring about?
I have to go on overnight trips every few months and having this old laptop in a functional state is a lot better than not having a laptop at all. Please don't start asking people to kill off support for 32bit just yet. Why, it was just last year Linux killed off 80386 support! :-) Besides, there's a bazillion embedded controllers, including x86 controllers, kiosks, ATMs, etc. that are 32 bit that Linux needs to run on.
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Originally posted by boltronics View PostUntil Steam actually officially supports a larger number of mainstream distributions such as Debian, Fedora, OpenSuse and Arch, these numbers won't mean much. As others have pointed out, it doesn't help matters that Ubuntu has been supported by Steam from day 1 so people might have chosen Ubuntu when they normally would not have.
FYI, the bug report seems to indicate the problem is actually a bug in WebKit.
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Originally posted by r1348 View PostI don't like where Ubuntu is going, and a sizeable part of linux users with it.
I don't really see the problem to be honest.
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Many people such as myself have Steam detected as being run on Ubuntu, when in fact it's just a Ubuntu chroot. Some might even have configured a dual-boot setup just for Steam to minimise problems.
About 2-3 weeks ago I switched to running natively on Debian, but I've had a few issues in doing so. Occasionally, Steam updates break my setup and I manually need to fix things (such as updating my Steam launcher wrapper script to include additional environment variables, changing from running the beta release - which I didn't even know I was still using - to reinstalling as stable, etc.).
Until Steam actually officially supports a larger number of mainstream distributions such as Debian, Fedora, OpenSuse and Arch, these numbers won't mean much. As others have pointed out, it doesn't help matters that Ubuntu has been supported by Steam from day 1 so people might have chosen Ubuntu when they normally would not have.
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Originally posted by FLHerne View PostNetbooks...
Also, there are still a fair few Pentium M laptops (and some P4 desktops, although I haven't seen many recently) in existence - mostly with XP*, and not really suited to Vista or Win7 but quite happy with some XFCE/LXDE distro. Quite a lot of those are owned by students etc, who are much more likely to be using Linux than your average PC owner*.
*NB: Such statements are based on what I see as a permanent resident of a university town in the UK, and might not properly represent global trends. I don't see why they shouldn't, though.. You don't need a stripped down distro, you just need to throw in an SSD and now it boots to desktop faster than my quad-core i7 ivy bridge laptop with a 5400RPM HDD that's 7 years newer... Waiitng for the new Intel SSDs to come out later this year to buy for my Ivy Bridge laptop...
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