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  • #11
    Admirable goals, but good luck implementing them (especially, the library compatibility) without stagnating or forking so far from other Linux distros as to be a total outsider.

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    • #12
      When multiarch is so important then i really think that steam is still 32 bit just like it was in august. That's really boring...

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Kano View Post
        When multiarch is so important then i really think that steam is still 32 bit just like it was in august. That's really boring...
        They said they're targeting 32-bit Ubuntu for the external beta... so you're probably right.

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        • #14
          that's what happens when you use an operating system to run a lamp stack all the time.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by allquixotic View Post
            Admirable goals, but good luck implementing them (especially, the library compatibility) without stagnating or forking so far from other Linux distros as to be a total outsider.
            worked for Android

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            • #16
              Originally posted by boast View Post
              worked for Android
              Perhaps but Canonical isn't Google...

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              • #17
                Audio latency? Maybe they'll finally get rid of pulseaudio and choose jack-audio-connection-kit!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by devius View Post
                  Process clean-up actions seems important. I was left with a 640x480 screen several times in the past when something goes wrong or even when exiting a game normally.
                  True, but that sounds also like a problem of the very software (game e.g.) itself that it doesn't leave tidy and properly.

                  Originally posted by phoronix news article
                  Audio Support ... Longevity of Binaries ... Graphics Support ... Input Devices Support ... Multi-Arch Libappindicator etc.
                  LOL. Sounds somehow well known to me. Regardless of distribution. Besides their Unity etc. stuff that is their own thing and fault. Why did they invent that horrible DE/WM anyway?

                  Then a LOT of things mentioned in this list depend on HW manufacturers.
                  I mean, okay, the unix world could actually also use a GUI for mouse button / keyboard layout management. (Still keeping the command line tools). But then, there are few mice where you can actually use or reprogram/rebind all keys and wheels they have. Neither with any GUI nor command line. Same goes for non standard keys on keyboards. And prolly gampads or joysticks, too.
                  Audio: Also HW enterprises need to give specs. Hello, Creative.
                  I even have a strange bug on my box with the onboard chip so that sometimes sound is completely gone until I just pull out the headphones plug and plug it back in.
                  This is far from being perfectly working. It might seem minor since everything else works but it just isn't the way to go when you have to unplug and plug it every 3rd boot.
                  Longevity is one thing FOSS devs could do something about. Or we will need emulators/layers like DOSBOX or WINE later, e.g. to emulate Linux 2.6 and libc abc behaviour on Linux 5 kernel + libc xyz to play an old game.
                  Audio latency. Well, I wish most of that was done via ALSA so we wouldn't have to have esds, jacks and pulses running around in userspace.

                  So we have a few acutal shortcomings in FOSS code but also it needs specs and/or drivers from the HW vendors.
                  And I dearly hope that gaming won't be restricted to Ubuntu.
                  Stop TCPA, stupid software patents and corrupt politicians!

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                  • #19
                    1) Improvements in HW space are more likely to come from Valve starring at HW vendors than Canonical shouting at them
                    2) Focus on perf of Unity is always welcome though!
                    3) Canonical can help a bit with OGL though, there are some IP matters to resolve (at least we could use info WHO owns those damn patents and IF they are willing to share them)
                    4) Where Canonical can actually shine is integration and Q&A. Hardcore gamers* tend to care about their PCs and have deeper know-how. Since Ubuntu have good options for feedback and bug reporting, Canonical can be important man-in-the-middle between those gamers and upstream component developers.**
                    5) And probably best thing Canonical can do: Become de facto Linux Desktop Distribution. So 3rd party devs can just forget about myriads of other distros. (Other distros can care about compatibility with Ubuntu without much fuss after all. But more important is SINGLE(1) focus point for those who want to enter Linux Desktop market)


                    * this name in game dev refer to people who play AAA titles as oposed to Casual gamers who play farmvile
                    ** as opposed to popular viewpoint, developing program is not about writing new stuff, but about caring about old stuff if judged by the time spent on those

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                    • #20
                      Generally speaking Linux can be a gaming platform when you have an ecosystem with companies, manufacturers competing for customers utilizing a platform.

                      It's already happened. Yes, my friends, Android is that platform.

                      In the end without a market (with customers and demand) you not gonna have the manufacturers (contributing to the platform with device drivers) and the software companies.

                      So what is the target audience for Ubuntu Linux?

                      It is an operating system for personal computers competing primarily with Microsoft Windows. Personal computers are competing with the game consoles, also nowadays with the touchscreen mobile devices.

                      You have a lot of competition and Ubuntu doesn't really offer as a gaming platform anything besides it is free as beer (and for philosophers it is free as speech).

                      You get nothing for nothing, it's a vicious circle, without customers no developers.

                      You have to show some initiative or at least the software companies has to.

                      Valve just did that.

                      Being ready from a technical standpoint is vital, but not nearly enough.

                      I personally think that Ubuntu Linux should not be a gaming platform, we already have that from the Microsoft and Sony.
                      A maintained (and supported) Linux distribution is more important for servers and workstations.

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