Humble Indie Bundle 6 Ends At $2 Million USD

[jhansonxi]

Torchlight baby! Hopefully we'll see torch2 go on linux as well in the near future. I haven't played anything with my buddies since the early (pre expansion) diablo2 days.

TL has been eating up most of my free time lately. Some of my clients were stuck between Diablo 2 + Median XL and Diablo 3. They're all playing TL on Linux now.

Don't expect a Linux version of TL2 anytime soon: http://www.gamespot.com/news/no-plan...ht-mmo-6396935

[bnolsen]

Torchlight baby! Hopefully we'll see torch2 go on linux as well in the near future. I haven't played anything with my buddies since the early (pre expansion) diablo2 days.

[yogi_berra]

This vocal not-open-source "argument" sounds more like a sorry excuse of... ...freetards.

Are you sure it's not an argument being used to avoid the fact that there is no binary compatibility in Linux at all? Drepper's no longer involved in glibc so there really is no excuse not to provide backwards compatibility.

[Hamish Wilson]

With games...? If it doesn't work on a future Ubuntu Vexed Viper - I move on to another game.

I play a game I like forever. And I am not the only one. So do not just dismiss the problem by saying that it does not apply to you.

[Tuxee]

I bought it too. It would be nice for them to open source the games once they're not making money anymore (to keep them working, port them to new platforms, etc.) but I'm not so hot on Open Source in games. I see games more like books or movies than software - something that is created and then I consume. Technically I'd prefer the line to be drawn within the game (open source software, proprietary art/sounds/storyline/etc) but I'm not so bothered as I am about the webserver I use or the word processor, etc.

Open sourcing the games won't make much sense, if it is based on an engine which is not open source. And it seems that quite a few Unity, Source and Unigine games will find their way onto Linux platforms.
Apart from that the open source aspect is much more relevant with applications, since I work with them and maintenance, frequent updates, and possible adaptation to new environments can be critical aspects.
With games...? If it doesn't work on a future Ubuntu Vexed Viper - I move on to another game. Besides, some HIB games have been open sourced - so far I haven't heard of updates or reworks of those games. This vocal not-open-source "argument" sounds more like a sorry excuse of... ...freetards.

[directhex]

True, and I see your point but who do you think is going to do that? I think what would be a better choice is if the code was handed down to another independent group (kinda like Loki Software) and have them make it more compatible. That way we get the optimizations we want while the devs don't have to worry about their code being unjustly distributed and modified.

The ports are already subcontracted, and any changes made to Free libraries used in the porting are passed upstream. For example, the Linux port of Bastion was subcontracted to OutOfOrder.cc, and they sent patches to MonoGame upstream.

The time spent on the port is a question of money, no matter who does the port - developer time isn't free

[schmidtbag]

Yes, games being open-sourced would be great, so that we can fix the bugs the developers can?t be bothered to fix themselves even though we paid them for working products. A lot of the bundle games didn?t or still don?t work on at least some linux setups, for example Fieldrunners? sound bug hasn?t seen a fix even though the devs have been handed a fix very quickly after the game was released (unless they did release a fix but the bundle organizers ?forgot? to mention it on their twitter feed). Some other games could be optimized or maybe have their shaders removed so they work on less powerful hw? And of course be ported to other platforms, and maintained to still be working 10 years from now. The possibilities would be endless.

I still bought it, but now I give everything to the EFF, until I can try the games and confirm that they actually work fine.

True, and I see your point but who do you think is going to do that? I think what would be a better choice is if the code was handed down to another independent group (kinda like Loki Software) and have them make it more compatible. That way we get the optimizations we want while the devs don't have to worry about their code being unjustly distributed and modified.

[Hamish Wilson]

Going to a more objective criticism, I can not help but notice that Vessel is still missing on Mac and Linux despite them promising that they would have the ports out in a few days after launch. Add to that the fact that the original Linux build of Torchlight was supposed to be a buggy mess and that this only came a couple of months after Humble Indie Bundle 5 and you get the impression that this whole thing was rushed.

Which may explain why it only got $2 Million - not a figure to be scoffed at but still much lower than the previous big Indie bundle got. Personally, I think the Humble Bundle guys have been trying to push too much out too quickly ever since the Frozen Synapse one. However, yes, I still did get this Bundle and I am looking forward to Torchlight and Rochard, and it is at least all native ports this time. Not trying to be a downer, but this all could have been handled better.

[stqn]

Yes, games being open-sourced would be great, so that we can fix the bugs the developers can?t be bothered to fix themselves even though we paid them for working products. A lot of the bundle games didn?t or still don?t work on at least some linux setups, for example Fieldrunners? sound bug hasn?t seen a fix even though the devs have been handed a fix very quickly after the game was released (unless they did release a fix but the bundle organizers ?forgot? to mention it on their twitter feed). Some other games could be optimized or maybe have their shaders removed so they work on less powerful hw? And of course be ported to other platforms, and maintained to still be working 10 years from now. The possibilities would be endless.

I still bought it, but now I give everything to the EFF, until I can try the games and confirm that they actually work fine.

[dimko]

Further more

I really don't get why people care if its open source or not. Are you going to edit the game? Will you add more content to it? Are you going to make another game based on their engines? Seriously, so what if its closed source. Hard work like that available on an open source platform does not in any way shape or form entitle you to it's source code. You should be thankful they made a Linux release at all. not buying it because of something you likely won't take advantage of can be a major turnoff to future deekopers. If the devs want to give it out then great, but when you buy a game what do you care about most - how the game was coded or playing it for entertainment? If its the former, I'm sorry but you have stupid priorities.

I'd like to see dev getting money for their job. With open source in most cases it's impossible. I am not greedy cunt i can spare a tenner. Typically i pay more, but i am broke, damn it. So there... 100% agreed with parent post.