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  • #31
    "The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale."

    Well there goes a problem right there for a company trying to make money on license fees.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by uid313 View Post
      Everyone must have source.

      http://opensource.org/docs/osd
      Unity Technologies has 754 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.


      Unity3D is not Free Software, but it does leverage some existing Free technologies, with source available above

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      • #33
        I won't go into the discussion about libre vs. closed software, but only say more options is better.

        About Unity3D supporting Linux, didn't this happen reluctantly because of all the Kickstarter Unity3D game projects promising Linux clients? I remember something about the Unity3D devs not wanting to touch Linux, and the support for the platform was done by either the Wasteland2 or Shadowrun2 devs? Might be wrong...

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        • #34
          Running Angry Bots on Archlinux

          Code:
          Desktop is 1280 x 800 @ 60 Hz
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              Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile 
              Vendor:   Intel Open Source Technology Center
              VRAM:     256 MB
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          Initialize engine version: 4.0.0b7
          
          requesting resize 1280 x 720
          resizing window to 1280 x 720
          Desktop is 1280 x 800 @ 60 Hz
          /dev/input/js0: driver version: 2.1.0 (20100)
          /dev/input/js0: fd 34, buttons 0, axes 2, name applesmc
          Platform assembly: /home/lepton/Angry Bots 64bit/Angry Bots 64bit/AngryBots_Data/Managed/UnityScript.Lang.dll (this message is harmless)
          Platform assembly: /home/lepton/Angry Bots 64bit/Angry Bots 64bit/AngryBots_Data/Managed/Boo.Lang.dll (this message is harmless)
          Unloading 3 Unused Serialized files (Serialized files now loaded: 0 / Dirty serialized files: 0)
          
          Unloading 2 unused Assets to reduce memory usage. Loaded Objects now: 24641. Operation took 13.690001 ms.
          AngryBots: Quality set to 'High' (LinuxPlayer)
           
          
          AngryBots: setting shader LOD to High
          Even acceloremeter is working as a Joystick

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          • #35
            Originally posted by numasan View Post
            I won't go into the discussion about libre vs. closed software, but only say more options is better.

            About Unity3D supporting Linux, didn't this happen reluctantly because of all the Kickstarter Unity3D game projects promising Linux clients? I remember something about the Unity3D devs not wanting to touch Linux, and the support for the platform was done by either the Wasteland2 or Shadowrun2 devs? Might be wrong...
            Not true at all. Linux support has been half done in Unity for a while. They just never allocated the time and resources to finish it because no significant portion of their paying customers gave a crap about Linux. Now a number of customers do care and are listing it as a requirement when engine shopping, hence it has become economically advantageous to finish that support. So it shall be done.

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            • #36
              I wonder how difficult it would be to port the IDE to Ubuntu.

              I gave it a try on OS X and it looks pretty cool.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by johnc View Post
                "The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale."

                Well there goes a problem right there for a company trying to make money on license fees.
                That didn't stop id software.
                id Tech 4

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                  That didn't stop id software.
                  id Tech 4
                  id release engine source after an engine stops being sold.

                  To use your example, the 7-year-old id Tech 4 was open sourced on November 22, 2011

                  All games using that engine shipped between August 2004 and May 2011. id stopped licensing their engines to others when Zenimax bought them.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by directhex View Post
                    id release engine source after an engine stops being sold.

                    To use your example, the 7-year-old id Tech 4 was open sourced on November 22, 2011

                    All games using that engine shipped between August 2004 and May 2011. id stopped licensing their engines to others when Zenimax bought them.
                    Yeah, but I don't see Unity 1, 2, or 3 being open source.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                      Everyone must have source.
                      Why? It is useless to anyone not using the engine and we all know you're never going to use the engine, which makes it useless to you.

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