Linux Gamers Are Going Crazy For This New Game

[rustybroomhandle]

@sabriah - I never said that a successful thing is automatically bad either.

[sabriah]

My personal opinions only, but of your list I shall divide them into games I like, and games I don't.

Not that it matters:

My list would be near identical, just that I would include Battlefield 3 (but not Modern Warfare 3)

It's a sad list you put there, mainly because you took it off the top sellers list. Just because it sells does not make it good.

I know. 50,000,000 Elvis-fans were wrong!

The AAA gaming industry is driven by investors, and as such are largely risk-averse. As a result they keep churning out the same soulless crap over and over again.

Like Elvis!

The indies might be more po-dunk, but at least it's a more interesting market. Experimental games like Dear Eshter would never come out of the AAA market. There's a lot more to gaming than the very narrow field painted by the so-called "AAA"s.

I think the magic in what determines what is a good game is largely unknown until it hits the market, whether it is an indie game or not.

Here are two articles from RPS that nicely sums up what that market is:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/05/e3s-press-events-do-not-represent-the-gaming-i-know/

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012...-becomes-vile/

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Thanks for the links!

[rustybroomhandle]

Which of the AAA market would you claim is over-hyped dreck?

My personal opinions only, but of your list I shall divide them into games I like, and games I don't.

Not that it matters:

Thumbs down:
99 Dragon Age II PC 2011
55 The Sims 3: Late Night Expansion Pack PC 2010
18 World of Warcraft: Cataclysm PC 2010
47 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PC 2011
48 Call of Duty: Black Ops PC 2010
52 The Sims 3: Pets PC 2011
54 Football Manager 2012 PC 2011
57 Football Manager 2011 PC 2010
30 Star Wars: The Old Republic PC 2011
36 Diablo III PC 2012
89 The Sims 3: Generations PC 2011
90 Mass Effect 3 PC 2012
91 The Sims 3: High-End Loft Stuff PC 2010
93 The Sims: Medieval PC 2011
80 Battlefield: Bad Company 2 PC 2010
75 The Sims 3: Ambitions PC 2010
81 Final Fantasy XIV Online PC 2010
39 Battlefield 3 PC 2011
13 StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty PC 2010

Thumbs up:
33 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim PC 2011
59 Sid Meier's Civilization V PC 2010
68 Fallout: New Vegas PC 2010
73 The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings PC 2011
84 Portal 2 PC 2011
92 Napoleon: Total War PC 2010
97 Deus Ex: Human Revolution PC 2011
100 Shogun 2: Total War PC 2011

Don't know enough to comment:
85 Crysis 2 PC 2011
69 Anno 2070 PC 2011
88 RIFT PC 2011

It's a sad list you put there, mainly because you took it off the top sellers list. Just because it sells does not make it good. The AAA gaming industry is driven by investors, and as such are largely risk-averse. As a result they keep churning out the same soulless crap over and over again. The indies might be more po-dunk, but at least it's a more interesting market. Experimental games like Dear Eshter would never come out of the AAA market. There's a lot more to gaming than the very narrow field painted by the so-called "AAA"s.

Here are two articles from RPS that nicely sums up what that market is:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/05/e3s-press-events-do-not-represent-the-gaming-i-know/

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/05/e3-day-zero-when-game-violence-becomes-vile/

[yogi_berra]

Guys just shut the fuck up about those AAA titles.
We don't give a fuck.

Freedom of speech for all as long as you agree with it, right?

[yogi_berra]

Which of the AAA market would you claim is over-hyped dreck?

Of that list, only Portal 2 and FO:NV are worth paying full price for. The rest are over-hyped schlock.

[MastaG]

Guys just shut the fuck up about those AAA titles.
We don't give a fuck.
The topic was about Carmageddon Reincarnation coming to Linux.
They just confirmed the Linux and Mac version even if they don't make the 600k within the remaining 14 hours.
It's a fun game to have on Linux, so now is your time to throw in a few bucks if you didn't pledged yet.

Especially the ones who are always bitching about why every new Linux game must be a FPS/cheap rpg/puzzle game.

[sabriah]

Good observation, but also not a major loss. We all like our blockbusters, but the AAA market is largely filled with over-hyped dreck. I'd much rather have a publisher like Paradox bring some of its titles to our platform.

I think you misunderstand the market. The AAA games market is not filled at all, and not with dreck.

There are more than 600 million games sold each year (actually 609,081,306).

Here are some stats for 2011 (http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/)

Global Software by Platform
Platform Yearly (change) [share]
X360 154713292 (+16%) [0.254]
PS3 148409212 (+13%) [0.244]
Wii 135651642 (-26%) [0.223]
DS 81076905 (-33%) [0.133]
PSP 32203266 (-29%) [0.053]
PC 29767970 (+89%) [0.049]
3DS 26833789 (++89%) [0.044]
PSV 425230 (++89%) [0.001]

PC, i.e. Windows has a seventh (7th) place in games with less than 5% of the market.

In this relatively small market the best selling PC games of all time are found here http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name...=0&results=200

There are 30 games published since 2010 on the top 100 list:

13 StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty PC 2010
18 World of Warcraft: Cataclysm PC 2010
30 Star Wars: The Old Republic PC 2011
33 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim PC 2011
36 Diablo III PC 2012
39 Battlefield 3 PC 2011
47 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PC 2011
48 Call of Duty: Black Ops PC 2010
52 The Sims 3: Pets PC 2011
54 Football Manager 2012 PC 2011
55 The Sims 3: Late Night Expansion Pack PC 2010
57 Football Manager 2011 PC 2010
59 Sid Meier's Civilization V PC 2010
68 Fallout: New Vegas PC 2010
69 Anno 2070 PC 2011
73 The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings PC 2011
75 The Sims 3: Ambitions PC 2010
80 Battlefield: Bad Company 2 PC 2010
81 Final Fantasy XIV Online PC 2010
84 Portal 2 PC 2011
85 Crysis 2 PC 2011
88 RIFT PC 2011
89 The Sims 3: Generations PC 2011
90 Mass Effect 3 PC 2012
91 The Sims 3: High-End Loft Stuff PC 2010
92 Napoleon: Total War PC 2010
93 The Sims: Medieval PC 2011
97 Deus Ex: Human Revolution PC 2011
99 Dragon Age II PC 2011
100 Shogun 2: Total War PC 2011

Which of the AAA market would you claim is over-hyped dreck?

[Kamikaze]

Come on guys.
Only 20 hours left for the Linux port and only 40k to go.
Already raised my pledge to 150.
Please show your support.
Finally a DRM-free game for linux thats not a mmorpg or first-person shooter

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...arnation/posts

I've already pledged, hopefully there's a big bump in the amount of funding in the final hours. I'll be keeping a close eye on it.

[MastaG]

Come on guys.
Only 20 hours left for the Linux port and only 40k to go.
Already raised my pledge to 150.
Please show your support.
Finally a DRM-free game for linux thats not a mmorpg or first-person shooter

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stainlessgames/carmageddon-reincarnation/posts

[smitty3268]

pong was a AAA game back in 1972 and the wikipedia article prof this.

maybe pong isn't a AAA game today "2012" but its the same with ETQW in a 2012 point of view ETQW isn't a AAA game.

AAA games didn't exist back in 1972. The entire games industry barely existed.

Maybe the definition of what was a big game back then was different, but that doesn't matter. We're all using today's accepted definition, not whatever was happening 100 years ago or in the alternate universe Q's brain comes from.

Practically every Flash based game in existence today would be a AAA game according to your warped perspective. They all get way more than 100,000 users or whatever you are going on about.