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[Ancurio]

How the f*** did this thread turn from "possibility of steam for linux" into "Championship of the world greatest German grammar nazis"??

https://twitter.com/#!/michaellarabe...26890609688577

Were you invited or did you invite yourself? =P

[log0]

Hi!

I know Russian very well and there is such thing as "mat language" (I speak fluent Russian and Mat ). It's very commonly used, even here (ex Russia).
On the other hand Russian has very very rich language, every single thing has it's own name. Me, knowing Russian very well, I'm still confused reading some Russian classic books as there are many phrases which only Russians can understand fully.

About the Mat ("мать") language, well I think a lot of nations have heard about it and a lot of people from different parts of the world know many of words of that language (well not really a language, but subsection of Russian )

regards
Kirurgs

Whoa, I have to disagree with Kirurgs here.

Mat is a tabooed slang. I really hope he is not talking mat to his relatives, parents, children.

What makes it interesting is that it is derived from a few obscene expressions, about half-dozen noun. Employing the Russian prefix and suffix system it forms a simple context dependent language. The movie "Red Heat" has got a few mat lines.

It is used prevalently by male groups, especially in military and criminal circles and to some degree by young adults due to its taboo status.

But yeah, pretty much every grown up Russian understands mat.

[RussianNeuroMancer]

Mat ("мать") language

Probably you mean "мат" (short form of "матерный язык"). "Мать" mean "mother".

[Kirurgs]

Hi!

I know Russian very well and there is such thing as "mat language" (I speak fluent Russian and Mat ). It's very commonly used, even here (ex Russia).
On the other hand Russian has very very rich language, every single thing has it's own name. Me, knowing Russian very well, I'm still confused reading some Russian classic books as there are many phrases which only Russians can understand fully.

About the Mat ("мать") language, well I think a lot of nations have heard about it and a lot of people from different parts of the world know many of words of that language (well not really a language, but subsection of Russian )

regards
Kirurgs

[crazycheese]

@Qaridarium: if you try to teach German, at least get it right.

@Michael: It's "Ich gehe in das Museum f?r alkoholfreies Bier !". I won't try for an explanation since I always despised languages at school :-)
Btw, even more natural would be the short form: Ich gehe ins Museum f?r alkoholfreies Bier.

I have even shorter-er version for you: "Ab ins Museum f?r Alkoholfreies"

ger Ab = ger Los == us "Lets go"
ger ins = ger in das == us in the
Museum = Museum
f?r == for(sometimes "of")
Alkoholfreies = Alkohol + frei(es) = Alcohol - free (catterpillar word, compare us Earthquake)
(-es) part - addition to adjectives when they stick to nouns of neutral gender. In nominative case and accusative case.

Alkoholfreies = alkoholfreies Beier == alcohol-free(as noun) = alcohol-free beer
Here, I made a noun out of adjective and noun. Its like "good stuf" = "goodie".

German = English(abc, part of grammar, small part of word construction) + Russian(huge part of grammar, lots of word constructions).

But if you take Russian = French + English + German + Arab + old Russian(10-5%), you will get general idea of modern state of languages.
But russian has "Mat" that no one language has.

[Qaridarium]

@Qaridarium: if you try to teach German, at least get it right.

@Michael: It's "Ich gehe in das Museum f?r alkoholfreies Bier !". I won't try for an explanation since I always despised languages at school :-)
Btw, even more natural would be the short form: Ich gehe ins Museum f?r alkoholfreies Bier.

hey thank you i think about this but i was confused by my own language LOL..

the short version is used but its slang this is not "High-German"

even the Germans are confused about das vs dass vs da? they even built hole websites just about this question: http://www.das-dass.de/

[mazumoto]

@Qaridarium: if you try to teach German, at least get it right.

@Michael: It's "Ich gehe in das Museum f?r alkoholfreies Bier !". I won't try for an explanation since I always despised languages at school :-)
Btw, even more natural would be the short form: Ich gehe ins Museum f?r alkoholfreies Bier.

[Qaridarium]

Danke.

Schei?e.... Haven't been practicing German Rosetta Stone learning in a few months / need new Bavarian Frau to finish learning proper German

"Schei?e! (i know English people start with the positive part but most Germans start with the negative part the german culture and language is "negative" if you can say something positive or negative then use the negative one. for example: english people say: Don't give a fuck -- this means give a fuck is "Good" germans don't use a word like fuck in the positive way example: das ist gar nicht mal schlecht schlecht=bad but this sentence is positive because if the germans say somthing positive they negative the bad. another example: kein schei? das ist wirklich so!)

Danke.... Haven't(ich habe) (**=schon ein paar monate)been practicing/(practising ?) (kein deutsch ge?bt/trainiert) German Rosetta Stone learning(Im Rosetta Stone Still) in a few months(**) / need new(Ich ben?tige eine) Bavarian Frau(Bayerische Frau) to finish (um mein k?nnen zu vervollst?ndigen.)learning proper German "

and what kind of training the woman give to you ? (was f?r eine art von ?bung lehrt dich die frau?)

i think its more the point that you have dirty imaginations about German sluts
(Ich denke du hast eher schmutzige gedanken ?ber Deutsche Schlampen.)


and yes even a fat (130kg) man like me gets a fuck from a Quality german slut after 3-4 hours of first chat on facebook and on the same day she comes to me and we fuck and she told me multible times that she isn't a slut LOL Thats germany!
(Und ja selbst ein Fetter 130kg schwerer mann wie ich bekommt ein fick von einer Qualit?ts Deutschen nach nur 3-4 stunden des schreibens auf facebook was den erstkontakt darstellte und noch am selben tag kam sie zu mir und wir fickten aber sie sagte mir mehrfach das sie keine schlampe sei LOL Das ist Deutschland!)

[Michael]

"Was ist das? Ich gehe in dass Museum f?r alkoholfreies Bier!! "

"alkoholfreies" is not a noun it describes how something is

"Bier" is the noun because of this you write Bier big and alkoholfreies with a tiny letter.

also in german you have to pin your supject "in DASS" means the target is bier museum.

also you have to specify your target museum is the general target but "F?R" is the specify pin means its a museum for the alcohol free beer.

and yes die Deutsche Sprache ist eine schwere Sprache! (German language is a hard language)

Danke.

Schei?e.... Haven't been practicing German Rosetta Stone learning in a few months / need new Bavarian Frau to finish learning proper German

[Qaridarium]

There's a few good reasons why Valve would have interest in Linux.

They're probably not fans of the new consoles. The new consoles are basically PCs but with app stores. Those app stores are probably going to kill Steam, or at least attempt too. Microsoft will have games for the next generation Xbox that'll also be playable on PCs and tablets. Sony will stick with X86 to retain that compatibility, while Microsoft will probably go ARM.

Now imagine yourself as Valve who has built this huge service called Steam. What Microsoft and Sony is doing is taking away this business from Valve. This is where the rumors of the Steam console comes in. Whatever the hardware they decide to use, they'll have to contend with an OS first.

#1 They could use Windows and load up a Steam UI to take over. Though this will risk having users bypass this to download games off Microsoft's app store.
#2 Working with Apple to create this Steam machine might work, but Apple wouldn't want to work with them. In fact, they'll want their games on their app store and forget about Steam.
#3 Create a working version of Steam for Linux and try working around a lot of the existing graphical issues that exist. Most likely resulting in the creation of the Steam app, and possibly the Steam distro.

Valve feels threaten by Microsoft and Sony as they want to take a piece of the pie.

you are so right... its all about fighting consoles from sony and microsoft and they don't have any chance if they don't go with linux. andorid is also possible but BUT andorid is even more worst for a company like valve.