Wine's Shader Compiler Now Handles... Reflections

[lolren]

Did you mean using the the Gallium 3D State tracker for DX10/11?

I think that that would be the best way to go about it.

+1 To that idea

yes, but is a know fact that most wine devs use nvidia (and the binary blob) (and this is the best to work with wine). sadly, nvidia does not support Gallium 3D, so it is a long shot to adopt that, at least for now.

[Remco]

I thought the removal of Win9X tests was interesting - almost sounds like Wine 1.2 is the last version to attempt to support bug-for-bug compatibility with Win9X.

I'm sure there's a lot of people who will want to run old/archaic/bug-dependent Windows 9X software in the future (even just for retro purposes), so I thought these people will be left with maintaining the 1.2 branch until ReactOS has equivalent support. Did some googling and found this though:
http://www.mail-archive.com/wine-dev.../msg67102.html

I wanted to ask some questions when this came up on the mailing list, but kept quiet because there was some controversy. Now that that's over, can someone explain what this really means?

What is the test suite used for? Why were tests marked broken for Win9x? What does that mean for Win9x compatibility?

[grantek]

I thought the removal of Win9X tests was interesting - almost sounds like Wine 1.2 is the last version to attempt to support bug-for-bug compatibility with Win9X.

I'm sure there's a lot of people who will want to run old/archaic/bug-dependent Windows 9X software in the future (even just for retro purposes), so I thought these people will be left with maintaining the 1.2 branch until ReactOS has equivalent support. Did some googling and found this though:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg67102.html

Right now all the test results that differ for win9x versions are marked
as broken(), i.e. Wine intentionally makes an effort to NOT replicate it.
So removing checks for (broken) results will change nothing.

[Jimmy]

Am I the only one who things that the wine developers have their priorities screwed up? How about making it actually run real useful and necessary software before messing with implementation of pointless graphical features that nobody really needs?

You clearly have a firm grasp of how open source development works.

Ask a bunch of random people what they want from an open source project and you'll get a diverse set of opinions about what should be prioritized. But you know what? The persons submitting patches or other contributions get their itches scratched.

[Nille]

The problem is that WINE is not an Linux only program

[zeealpal]

what ever happened to that legitimate dx10 and dx11 implementation into wine? if thats still happening, the wine developers should seriously ditch the open gl conversion into dx and focus more on the functionality of wine itself. seriously, all wine needs is a REAL dx and everything should be relatively easy from there on, making small tweaks here and there for any program or game that doesn't work for reasons irrelevant to graphics.

Did you mean using the the Gallium 3D State tracker for DX10/11?

I think that that would be the best way to go about it.

+1 To that idea

[schmidtbag]

what ever happened to that legitimate dx10 and dx11 implementation into wine? if thats still happening, the wine developers should seriously ditch the open gl conversion into dx and focus more on the functionality of wine itself. seriously, all wine needs is a REAL dx and everything should be relatively easy from there on, making small tweaks here and there for any program or game that doesn't work for reasons irrelevant to graphics.

[Remco]

The article could only have been clearer about that if Michael had understood it correctly.

[bhassel]

Looks like this is referring to "code" reflection not the graphical effect (the article could have been clearer on that...)

The Wine developers implemented methods needed for the ID3D11ShaderReflection interface, which returns information about a shader.

[pvtcupcakes]

What kind of reflection are we talking about here?

Mirrors or Reflection in computer programming.