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  • phoronix
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    Another Humble Indie Bundle Is Coming

    Phoronix: Another Humble Indie Bundle Is Coming

    Earlier this year there was the "Humble Indie Bundle" where anyone could purchase a set of four Indie computer games (that are Linux compatible) for any price they wanted. The games included World of Goo, Aquaria, Gish, Lugaru, and Penumbra Overture. This ended up being such a success with the game developers that they ended up open-sourcing the games after raising quite a bit of money off this bundled deal. Now it appears the developers are working on a second Humble Indie Bundle...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODg5MQ

  • Svartalf
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    Heh... I know what's going to be in it...and I'm not tellin'.

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  • Chewi
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    Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
    Gentoo provides packages for the Humble Bundle.
    I spent so long trying to package them, I never got round to actually playing them. At least I had some success there, particularly with regards to building from source.

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  • Svartalf
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    Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
    BTW, the Humble Bundle was fantastic, and I will purchase this one too, based on the strength of the last one alone.
    Heh...good to hear...

    Aquaria, World of Goo and Penumbra: Overture were brilliant, and Gish and Lugaru were fun to take for a ride.
    Certainly worth the $15 I contributed to the cause...

    This is a great way to support Linux gaming.
    It is, at that.

    I hope they put Osmos in
    Dunno what all they'll put in. They should have an intro trailer up here shortly if they haven't already.

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  • Svartalf
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    Originally posted by miles View Post
    Agreed 100%, and that's coming from a Ubuntu user. I don't mind asking if a .deb (not an Ubuntu .deb, a .deb, since I prefer it works for Debian first and then for Ubuntu, not the other way arount) is possible and offering advice if necessary, but I always feel like puking when some random kiddie make an absolute demand for Ubuntu packages as if it's the only distribution in the universe. Those morons should remember that people that build the Ubuntu packages they use everyday are also Debian developers and would be pretty upset seeing their users trying to stab them like that.
    Thank you guys... As an aside, Cortex Command and Caster both use Mojosetup (and will continue to do so...) but there's plans by myself to make it "nicer" for people that insist upon the .deb or .rpm- never mind that you're just doing one for the other there on this.

    .debs and .rpms only offer one thing...being tied into the packaging system so you can uninstall the stuff from that tool. If you're using one of the "good" installers out there, you have uninstall support, you have proper menu insertion support, that sort of thing. Unless you're talking about dependencies that don't drift...ever...unless you're packaged as part of the distribution, it's more a minefield than you'd think- and then you're resorting to doing cross-compiles of things, pinning to libc versions, etc. and providing key binaries including the .so's you need that may/may not be there.

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  • Svartalf
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    Originally posted by ethana2 View Post
    Besides that, if someone can't make a .deb, I don't trust whatever script they do write. Invariably they don't handle dependencies, they don't handle menu entries correctly, all kinds of unpolished crap like that which I won't put up with.
    So...you don't trust someone that has been doing this for probably longer than you've probably used Linux?

    The reality is that each of your arguments there is null. Why?

    .debs don't magically handle dependencies unless you're building it to the SPECIFIC distribution version you're installing to. Seriously. With some things there's a version-to-version variance (Arch decided to go to libpng 1.4 a while back... Busted Caster all to hell on that platform. If the same transpires with a .deb based distribution, I'd have to provide .debs for at least two differing variations there). If I fixed it so you didn't need to worry about that (handling the dependencies myself, by the way...) then .debs are little different than the Mojosetup .bin file I currently provide- the only thing is "convenience" which is a personal preference thing.

    If you use BitRock, Mojosetup, and a few others, the menus are handled right as well.

    And this doesn't get into the discussion about if I'm doing .debs, then I've got to do .rpms, Conary packages, etc.

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  • pingufunkybeat
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    BTW, the Humble Bundle was fantastic, and I will purchase this one too, based on the strength of the last one alone.

    Aquaria, World of Goo and Penumbra: Overture were brilliant, and Gish and Lugaru were fun to take for a ride.

    This is a great way to support Linux gaming.

    I hope they put Osmos in

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  • pingufunkybeat
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    Packaging is the job of the distributions, not upstream developers. Ideally, the upstream devs would contact the distribution and have them prepare a .deb, .rpm, ebuild a .tgz which runs on their distribution. This is how open source programs do it, after all.

    Gentoo provides packages for the Humble Bundle.

    If your distro does not provide it, then you can make your .deb yourself.

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  • miles
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    Originally posted by MaxToTheMax View Post
    Okay, really? Ubuntu does not and should not get treated as more special than any other distro. Anyone who produces "Ubuntu software, not Linux software" is doing it wrong!
    Agreed 100%, and that's coming from a Ubuntu user. I don't mind asking if a .deb (not an Ubuntu .deb, a .deb, since I prefer it works for Debian first and then for Ubuntu, not the other way arount) is possible and offering advice if necessary, but I always feel like puking when some random kiddie make an absolute demand for Ubuntu packages as if it's the only distribution in the universe. Those morons should remember that people that build the Ubuntu packages they use everyday are also Debian developers and would be pretty upset seeing their users trying to stab them like that.

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  • miles
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    Originally posted by ethana2 View Post
    I'm an alpha addict, I reinstall my OS very frequently. I expect to be able to configure everything the way I like it with one "sudo apt-get install bla bla bla bla bla bla" and maybe a dpkg command on a directory.
    As far as I remember, the HIB games run in self-contained archives. Just unpack them on a separate partition, and you can play the games even if you reinstall your OS every other day. As for desktop shortcuts, either re-run the scripts, make your own script or your own package (a package that intalls a desktop shortcut is trivial, as is a script, since you just need to copy or symlink the .desktop files and the icons in the relevant directories).

    Regarding your worries about upstream script installs, it's trivial even for a novice to check if a script is sane. Less so for a package, and if you believe making a package is any proof of competence, you obviously don't have any clue what you're talking about.

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