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  • Joe Sixpack
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    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    Shipments !=units currently in use
    So... let me get this straight:

    Nvidia's GPU card shipments drop 10%
    Nvidia's integrated graphics solutions drop 10%
    Apple drops Nvidia from Mac Pro's in favor of ATi.

    None of this matters, but useless hardware polls from websites counts as valid support of your argument?

    Interesting.

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  • blackshard
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    This is pretty Off Topic, but so funny to read...

    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    LMFAO, ya uhhuh look at the AMD series between the 3000-4000-5000. They rename old parts to new series all the time especially on the low end.
    You kidding? They are different project with a shared base, but they are certainly different chips with progressively added features. There's just a new memory controller for GDDR5 memories (hd3000->hd4000), but hey, who cares? There's just support for dx11 features (hd4000->hd5000), but hey, who cares?

    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    The hardware still works. It just doesn't work in certian configs. No different then AMD chipset motherboards not allowing SLi and vice versa.
    Senseless response.

    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    LMAO look at intels server chipsets. Same thing. AMD has rebranded their GPU's many times as well. Just look at any device inf file on their cards and look up their corresponding family and their advertised "series"
    In your dreams maybe... Surely not in real word.
    However I think you don't understand the meaning of rebranding: rebranding is the activity to take a chip and create a brand, then take the same chip and create a different brand, and so on...

    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    Lets see, how about Granite Bay or AMD 750 chipset where AGP defects were supposed to be worked around in the manufacturers bios. Some did, others didn't.
    I see no point here too. An errata is supposed to happen, a deliberate issue with construction material is not.

    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    Well SSE has never even been incorporated on GPU's. Your point?
    Senseless response again. Sincerely, I don't understand what's the meaning of this response...

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  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by energyman View Post
    deanjo, you can stop with your fanboi bullshit. Nobody renamed old parts as Nvidia did. Nobody tried to rip off customers like they did.
    LMFAO, ya uhhuh look at the AMD series between the 3000-4000-5000. They rename old parts to new series all the time especially on the low end.

    When did AMD or Intel release drivers that made their hardware stop working if an nvidia part was used in the system?
    The hardware still works. It just doesn't work in certian configs. No different then AMD chipset motherboards not allowing SLi and vice versa.

    When did AMD or Intel release the same cards with 4 different names?
    LMAO look at intels server chipsets. Same thing. AMD has rebranded their GPU's many times as well. Just look at any device inf file on their cards and look up their corresponding family and their advertised "series"

    When did AMD or Intel sold knowingly defective parts and blamed everybody else?
    Lets see, how about Granite Bay or AMD 750 chipset where AGP defects were supposed to be worked around in the manufacturers bios. Some did, others didn't.

    Oh - and the link you posted defending nvidia's choice of x87 instructions - those ghuys ignore the fact that x87 is DEAD for x86-64 processors.
    Well SSE has never even been incorporated on GPU's. Your point?

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  • energyman
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    deanjo, you can stop with your fanboi bullshit. Nobody renamed old parts as Nvidia did. Nobody tried to rip off customers like they did.

    When did AMD or Intel release drivers that made their hardware stop working if an nvidia part was used in the system?
    When did AMD or Intel release the same cards with 4 different names?
    When did AMD or Intel sold knowingly defective parts and blamed everybody else?

    Oh - and the link you posted defending nvidia's choice of x87 instructions - those ghuys ignore the fact that x87 is DEAD for x86-64 processors.

    But go on, defend nvidia.

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  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by Joe Sixpack View Post
    I'm late, but I read this a few weeks ago:

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/30/a...gpu-shipments/
    Shipments !=units currently in use

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  • Joe Sixpack
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    Originally posted by jmcharron View Post
    Lol do you live under a rock or something. Nvidia is the single most used GPU according to Phoronix Graphics Survey 07'-09' and most likely again this year.
    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    Smolts hardware database shows pretty much the same results.
    I'm late, but I read this a few weeks ago:

    You'd think with ATI having the performance, value and power efficiency lead for so long -- at least since the Radeon HD 4000 series -- NVIDIA would be in all kinds of trouble, but it's only now that AMD's graphics division has finally taken the lead in quarterly shipments. This is according to Mercury Research, whose analysts place the split at 51 to 49 percent in favor of ATI -- still a tightly contested thing, but it compares very favorably to the Red Team's 41% share in the same quarter last year. This data is concerned with discrete GPU shipments only (laptops included), whereas on the integrated front Intel continues to reign supreme with 54 percent of the market shipping its cheap and cheerful IGP units. ATI has made forward strides there as well, however, with 24.5% ranking ahead of NVIDIA's 19.8%. If Apple shifting its iMac and Mac Pro lines away from the Green livery wasn't enough, perhaps these numbers will finally start ringing some alarm bells over at NV HQ. [Thanks, Zubayer]

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  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by mirv View Post
    Nvidia doesn't have a cpu last time I checked.
    Well you would be wrong on that comment in many ways. They even have an x86 cpu.



    But your right, nVidia doesn't have a modern x86 cpu, so why the hell would they bother spending time and money on developing for SSE support. None of their products use it.

    NVCC does the exact same thing that Overdrive does in regards to the processor. It makes the same calls but yet you can't even install Overdrive on a nvidia chipset based board despite it having the same capabilities and making the same calls. You can hack Overdrive once you remove the artificial restrictions in place to work on a nvidia chipset with a AMD processor.

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  • mirv
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    Nvidia doesn't have a cpu last time I checked.

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  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by mirv View Post
    Making softare for a consumer to run a competitor's chip outside of its specs is generally frowned upon.
    It's not even the competitors chip. It's AMD's processor, and they even licensed the capability to Nvidia.

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  • mirv
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    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    LMFAO. Bullshit. NVCC and Overdrive make the EXACT same calls to the processor.
    Making softare for a consumer to run a competitor's chip outside of its specs is generally frowned upon.

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