NTSYNC Driver Ready For Enhancing Windows Gaming With Linux 6.14

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  • phoronix
    Administrator
    • Jan 2007
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    NTSYNC Driver Ready For Enhancing Windows Gaming With Linux 6.14

    Phoronix: NTSYNC Driver Ready For Enhancing Windows Gaming With Linux 6.14

    Set to make the upcoming Linux 6.14 kernel cycle even more exciting is that it looks like the completed NTSYNC driver will be ready for merging. The NTSYNC driver enhances Wine / Proton (Steam Play) gaming by better matching the Windows NT synchronization primitives to allow for better gaming performance. The NTSYNC code has long been a work-in-progress but this week the revised code made it into the relevant "-next" branch ahead of Linux 6.14...

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  • Volta
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 2284

    #2
    Great. Hopefully Fedora 42 will include ntsync with the appropriate patches needed for wine/proton.

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    • pinguinpc
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 923

      #3
      If anyone stay interested patches stay here:



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      • V1tol
        Senior Member
        • May 2016
        • 608

        #4
        Now we need upstream Proton support (or at least proton-ge build) and I will be happy

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        • marlock
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2018
          • 435

          #5
          i wonder if windows games will perform better on linux than windows on average at some point

          i know some already do and most are on-par or only slightly worse

          but imagine what gamers would do if it becomes a "mostly a little better, sometimes a lot" situation

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          • Ferrum Master
            Phoronix Member
            • Feb 2024
            • 114

            #6
            Originally posted by marlock View Post
            i wonder if windows games will perform better on linux than windows on average at some point

            i know some already do and most are on-par or only slightly worse

            but imagine what gamers would do if it becomes a "mostly a little better, sometimes a lot" situation
            It depends on CPU. I gain most on certain older intel CPU doing mitigation off as it really cripples some platforms and older, thus anemic CPUs even the original Haswell on my X99 that I gave away for free to my friend, that cannot afford much. There I can have really good boost disabling them, especially minFPS.

            On AMD side, my primary rig, aging 5950X, due to Windows being weird with AMD chipset drivers and Linux Pstate seems to work somehow now, so I gain there. If the game is not CPU heavy or IO heavy, than it does not matter much.

            GPU driver wise. It depends on the title really, Usually it is still around 10% slower, I game on 7900XTX. Last time I benched that China Historical Wukong game, dual boot and compared. If we involve Raytracing... then it is all sad, Mesa gets hit way more.

            Comparing minimum FPS also I tend to see, Linux has some weird spikes time to time and is more unstable. Windows still wins there. Hard to tell what is going on there, you need to plot actual CPU/GPU frequency there, I feel Linux is overly aggressive even in performance modes or some latency penalty hides somewhere.

            We will see what this will bring here after few months. But don't get me wrong, you can game on Linux without much trouble these days... if you don't need seemless HDR, HDMI 2.1 for AMD, painless VRR etc... it is still a long way to go. But you can do
            Last edited by Ferrum Master; 12 January 2025, 11:45 AM.

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            • pieman
              Phoronix Member
              • Mar 2020
              • 111

              #7
              Originally posted by Ferrum Master View Post

              It depends on CPU. I gain most on certain older intel CPU doing mitigation off as it really cripples some platforms and older, thus anemic CPUs even the original Haswell on my X99 that I gave away for free to my friend, that cannot afford much. There I can have really good boost disabling them, especially minFPS.

              On AMD side, my primary rig, aging 5950X, due to Windows being weird with AMD chipset drivers and Linux Pstate seems to work somehow now, so I gain there. If the game is not CPU heavy or IO heavy, than it does not matter much.

              GPU driver wise. It depends on the title really, Usually it is still around 10% slower, I game on 7900XTX. Last time I benched that China Historical Wukong game, dual boot and compared. If we involve Raytracing... then it is all sad, Mesa gets hit way more.

              Comparing minimum FPS also I tend to see, Linux has some weird spikes time to time and is more unstable. Windows still wins there. Hard to tell what is going on there, you need to plot actual CPU/GPU frequency there, I feel Linux is overly aggressive even in performance modes or some latency penalty hides somewhere.

              We will see what this will bring here after few months. But don't get me wrong, you can game on Linux without much trouble these days... if you don't need seemless HDR, HDMI 2.1 for AMD, painless VRR etc... it is still a long way to go. But you can do
              Yeah, throughout the years the gains I've noticed from my own experience and others has always been around the CPU. Usually a mixture because Linux does a better job at scheduling and less bloat. Last year I got Cinebench R20 running with Wine and I was shocked that I was scoring about 1,000 points higher with it on my 13900K than I did in Windows. I kept running it over, and over again thinking it was a fluke. Did restarts, over many days, but consistently was receiving a score of 38,000 while Windows would be 37,000. For Cinebench, scoring an extra 1,000 points is hugely significant. Its the equivalent of doing a pretty decent overclock.

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              • shmerl
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 3512

                #8
                Congrats!

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                • mos87
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 463

                  #9
                  Originally posted by phoronix View Post
                  [b]Enhancing Windows Gaming With Linux
                  It's the only kind of "gaming" on Linux currently.
                  Last edited by mos87; 12 January 2025, 01:28 PM.

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                  • mos87
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 463

                    #10
                    Originally posted by shmerl View Post
                    Congrats!
                    To the cuckolds.

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