Steam On Linux Ends 2024 With A Nice Boost To Its Marketshare, AMD Linux CPU Use At 74%

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  • Ladis
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 408

    #41
    Originally posted by highball View Post

    Apple was in the server market. OSX Server was used for Xserve their rack mounted servers. When Microsoft and Linux were gobbling up the server space, Apple tried too, OSX Server flopped and apple eventually exited the market all together.
    Ehm, Apple was not in the server market decades before Xserver and decades after.

    Originally posted by highball View Post

    exactly, nobody is rushing to use OSX unless you have no option otherwise.
    Except iPhone, iPad and Macs are used by tons of people and not everybody wants to cut their profits by abandoning them.

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    • highball
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2023
      • 35

      #42
      Originally posted by Ladis View Post
      Ehm, Apple was not in the server market decades before Xserver and decades after.
      ​No kidding. OSX Server didn't exist then. And nobody said that. But OSX Server sucked. It flopped. Ergo XServe flopped. If Apple didn't want to be in the server market, they wouldn't have made a server product and call it OSX Server. And they definitely wouldn't have started a division for server and call it XServe.



      Originally posted by Ladis View Post
      Except iPhone, iPad and Macs are used by tons of people and not everybody wants to cut their profits by abandoning them.
      Go ahead, your choice. It doesn't change OSX server flopping even though "OSX is totally Unix guys".

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      • Ladis
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2017
        • 408

        #43
        Originally posted by highball View Post
        ​No kidding. OSX Server didn't exist then. And nobody said that. But OSX Server sucked. It flopped. Ergo XServe flopped. If Apple didn't want to be in the server market, they wouldn't have made a server product and call it OSX Server. And they definitely wouldn't have started a division for server and call it XServe.
        Actually you don't know you succeed or fail, until you try it.

        Originally posted by highball View Post
        Go ahead, your choice. It doesn't change OSX server flopping even though "OSX is totally Unix guys".
        No problem, you don't need a server to develop for Apple platforms. And the Unix underhood is for a better working OS on your device. That's why some Windows users switch to Mac, because its *nix like Linux, but has good desktop environment and all the commercial software.

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        • highball
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2023
          • 35

          #44
          Originally posted by Ladis View Post

          Actually you don't know you succeed or fail, until you try it.



          No problem, you don't need a server to develop for Apple platforms. And the Unix underhood is for a better working OS on your device. That's why some Windows users switch to Mac, because its *nix like Linux, but has good desktop environment and all the commercial software.
          Wow, the mental gymnastics with this one.

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          • Ladis
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2017
            • 408

            #45
            Originally posted by highball View Post

            Wow, the mental gymnastics with this one.
            Arguments ended, so using ad hominem

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            • sarmad
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 1228

              #46
              Originally posted by Ladis View Post

              Do you believe there's so little Mac users on Steam? The stats are hidden by Valve's inability to provide Proton on macOS. Thus Mac users are forced to use external emulation and run Windows version of Steam and games.
              How many mac users do you know willing to get into that hassle? I mean, how many Linux users actually got into the hassle of gaming through Wine before Valve introduced Proton? So why do you expect the mac community to be willing to tinker around more than the Linux community? If anything, the opposite would be expected.

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              • qarium
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 3438

                #47
                Originally posted by HEL88 View Post
                The fans are asking. Ok, as you wish.
                Linux - 2.29%
                AMD AMD Custom GPU 0405 - 31.68%
                AMD Radeon Graphics (RADV VANGOGH) - 17.67%​
                So:
                2.29 * (1 - (0.317 + 0.177)) = 1.15%
                Without deck handheld, Linux laptops, desktops are 1.15%.
                well this just shows that linux products like the steam deck are very very very successful.

                valve just has to exploid this fact a little more and release a steam box 2.0 with advance steam deck like controller.

                i bought the first steam controller and it was stolen from me and for sure i will buy the version 2.0 if they sell it.
                Phantom circuit Sequence Reducer Dyslexia

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                • Ladis
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2017
                  • 408

                  #48
                  Originally posted by sarmad View Post

                  How many mac users do you know willing to get into that hassle? I mean, how many Linux users actually got into the hassle of gaming through Wine before Valve introduced Proton? So why do you expect the mac community to be willing to tinker around more than the Linux community? If anything, the opposite would be expected.
                  What other options they have to play real games? Mac App Store? That was much weaker battle than Steam vs Epic. Also you forget, on Mac everything is easier, if you have $$$. People use the paid version of WINE, called CodeWeavers, where it's one click of "hassle". In fact, CodeWeavers integrated the Apple's port of DirectX 12, so now supports modern games like Cyberpunk 2077, Elden Ring, Death Stranding, or Hogwarts Legacy.

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                  • ElderSnake
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 304

                    #49
                    It's a little bewildering how this forum attracts Windows and Mac fanpeople

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                    • mSparks
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 2068

                      #50
                      Originally posted by ElderSnake View Post
                      It's a little bewildering how this forum attracts Windows and Mac fanpeople
                      As a 100% Linux user/developer for the last 15 years or so that recently bought a mac mini as a second machine, then a macbook air as a mobile solution, I can only sing Apples praises, they are both a perfect fit with a main linux desktop with more similarities than differences, nowhere near as expensive or "walled garden" I had been misinformed into believing, with a build quality you just cannot get anywhere else.

                      But I am as bewildered as you about how so many ms word experts and people who have so little self respect they need to pirate and cheat in games (the only reasons to buy a windows machine) end up here.

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