NVIDIA R565 vs. Linux 6.13 + Mesa 25.0 Git AMD / Intel Graphics For Linux Gaming

[M@GOid]

Looks like Intel drivers are only good for benchmark engines. Actual gaming tests show a very bad situation for those interested in gaming on Intel GPUs.

[joaquinvacas]

I'm really interested on NVK, would love to see Mesa 25.x vs 565 drivers.

[bezirg]

I very much regret buying an Arc A770. I thought Intel's Linux drivers would mature, but still many years afterwards it has not been the case.

I should have gone with AMD in retrospect; or even Nvidia considering they have started open-sourcing their drivers.

[avis]

I very much regret buying an Arc A770. I thought Intel's Linux drivers would mature, but still many years afterwards it has not been the case.

I should have gone with AMD in retrospect; or even Nvidia considering they have started open-sourcing their drivers.

• If you want to game NVIDIA is the best option bar none. DLSS is extremely unlikely to ever work under AMD/Intel GPUs and AMD's own DLSS alternative is yet to be released.
• If you care about Linux/Wayland AMD could be better.

NVIDIA hasn't started open-sourcing their drivers per se. They've only open sourced a thin layer between the GPU and their userspace libraries doing all the job. At least you can now have all your kernel modules digitally signed and have Secure EFI Boot Mode on, something that was risky before considering their closed sourceness and licensing.

Still, wonderful IBM/Redhat/Fedora outright refuse to sign open source NVIDIA drivers but it's not just that, they treat VirtualBox modules equally. Ubuntu AFAIK has you covered.

[blackiwid]

[/LIST]NVIDIA hasn't started open-sourcing their drivers per se. They've only open sourced a thin layer between the GPU and their userspace libraries doing all the job.

Wait I thought they did all the proprietary stuff into a rom or something... you have to still install proprietary software? So they have absolutely no opensource at all... ok I thought it's just cheat-opensource with huge Firmware not that you still have to install a proprietary rootkit to use it.

[MastaG]

The moral of the story.. just buy NVIDIA if you want the best experience and performance.

Yes there are a few things left to fix, such as multi monitor VRR and some Wayland things.
But that will be tackled soon enough.

[Leopard]

One would think Michael would responsibly test equal performers on both vendors but for some reason he wanted to shine NV here i guess lol.

[Leopard]

The moral of the story.. just buy NVIDIA of you want the best experience and performance.

Yes there are a few things left to fix, such as multi monitor VRR and some Wayland things.
But that will be tackled soon enough.

See, that is how marketing machine works.

That result is expected, he does purposefully picked 4070 Ti Super vs 7800 XT.

7800 XT is a 500 dollar gpu, 4070 Ti Super is a 800 dolar gpu...

[wpupkin]

We have products from a company (NVIDIA) that specializes in GPUs going against products from a company (AMD) that abandoned the desktop GPU market years ago and a company (Intel) that is just starting to compete in this market segment.

I wonder who will win?

Yup, according to power consumption its like really stronk dude who able to move his fists 24/7 in any direction really fast vs professional fighter.
ark 770 vs RX 7600/7700 XT.
Loosing but tried really hard.

P/S/ @Michael
I wonder if I asked that before, but could you please add <title>MIN: ... MAX: ... </title> to every <rect> in SVG ?
Some values are so small ... dat stronk dude's especially.
At least we'll have hint what score.

EDIT1: I mean changing

<rect ...></rect>

to

<rect ...><titile>MIN: MAX:</title></rect>

This will add a hint to the bar and show values on hover. Helps if MAX or even MIN are not visible due to very small bar.

[pokeballs]

I can't wait to see where Battlemage will end up on those graphs!