NVIDIA R565 vs. Linux 6.13 + Mesa 25.0 Git AMD / Intel Graphics For Linux Gaming

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  • phoronix
    Administrator
    • Jan 2007
    • 67153

    NVIDIA R565 vs. Linux 6.13 + Mesa 25.0 Git AMD / Intel Graphics For Linux Gaming

    Phoronix: NVIDIA R565 vs. Linux 6.13 + Mesa 25.0 Git AMD / Intel Graphics For Linux Gaming

    It's been a few months since running any fresh Linux graphics driver comparison benchmarks. But given the imminent availability of the first Intel Arc Battlemage graphics cards, I have been carrying out some fresh Linux GPU driver testing. Given the recently-stabilized NVIDIA R565 Linux driver series and then also the newest upstream code in Linux 6.13 Git and Mesa 25.0-devel for the AMD Radeon and Intel Arc Graphics hardware on their open-source drivers, here is a fresh look at where Intel / AMD / NVIDIA mid-range graphics stand today on Ubuntu Linux with the leading-edge drivers.

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  • pinguinpc
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 918

    #2
    Good test but



    Thanks

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    • skeevy420
      Senior Member
      • May 2017
      • 8568

      #3
      Originally posted by pinguinpc View Post
      Good test but

      Thanks

      They're also mostly high and ultra high settings, too. No Low or Mediums except for the odd Hitman 3 low results.

      Michael

      Was there something wrong with the Hitman 3 results? The charts say Low and Ultra but the Low results are what I'd expect to see from High based on what Ultra had.

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      • sophisticles
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2015
        • 2546

        #4
        We have products from a company (NVIDIA) that specializes in GPUs going against products from a company (AMD) that abandoned the desktop GPU market years ago and a company (Intel) that is just starting to compete in this market segment.

        I wonder who will win?

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        • Hibbelharry
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 624

          #5
          Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
          We have products from a company (NVIDIA) that specializes in GPUs
          Nvidia is a KI company, no GPU company.

          Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
          ...going against products from a company (AMD) that abandoned the desktop GPU market years ago and a company (Intel) that is just starting to compete in this market segment.
          RDNA3 isn't that old and RDNA4 is just around the corner. Battlemage might also show some presence in the budget market.

          Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
          I wonder who will win?
          I guess Wayland.

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          • avis
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2022
            • 2196

            #6
            Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
            We have products from a company (NVIDIA) that specializes in GPUs going against products from a company (AMD) that abandoned the desktop GPU market years ago and a company (Intel) that is just starting to compete in this market segment.

            I wonder who will win?
            NVIDIA has been primarily an enterprise supplier for AI solutions for years now. It doesn't stop them from advancing consumer game GPUs.

            AMD has been raking in billions of dollars selling Epycs and in fact they have become more profitable than Intel on the server market.

            What other excuses does AMD need?

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            • Hibbelharry
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 624

              #7
              Originally posted by avis View Post
              What other excuses does AMD need?
              Exuse what exactly? Results here are pretty in line.

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              • jeisom
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 265

                #8
                Michael
                I'd love if you could expand your lineup of steam/proton games. I like seeing the benchmarks about gaming on linux. It would be nice if you could integrate additional titles over time.

                For some reason it seems like a lot of those are older, but in reality I'd only count yQuake2, GTAV and maybe Xonotic and Unvanquished(Engines) older. The rest are fairly recent. Maybe because We see them often to compare distro/kernel improvements.

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                • Michael
                  Phoronix
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 14293

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jeisom View Post
                  Michael
                  I'd love if you could expand your lineup of steam/proton games. I like seeing the benchmarks about gaming on linux. It would be nice if you could integrate additional titles over time.

                  For some reason it seems like a lot of those are older, but in reality I'd only count yQuake2, GTAV and maybe Xonotic and Unvanquished(Engines) older. The rest are fairly recent. Maybe because We see them often to compare distro/kernel improvements.
                  I'm always willing to add more benchmarks but the game itself must be automated/benchmark friendly. Unfortunately all too often many modern games are not benchmark friendly for automated purposes short of using like AutoHotKeys or similar on Windows and that is even less reliable, etc, on Linux.
                  Michael Larabel
                  https://www.michaellarabel.com/

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                  • blackiwid
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 2051

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
                    I wonder who will win?
                    This test will not tell us that because it was only 4 games so you can nearly only cherry pick AMD won at least in 2 titles of 4 or 5 with a 470 Euro in Germany card against a 530 Euro Nvidia card often even against the Super that is over 600 Euro.

                    Also it seems that there is used the stupid native mode, F1 22 is also available as Windows version so obviously there is a huge bug, the Nvidia hardware is not like 3x as fast as the other games show, so like most Linux versions of games (like Ark Survival Evolved) is horrible buggy.

                    So why would you limit yourself to use the garbage native version of the game instead of the 99% sure much better running proton version?

                    And there are not worse result for AMD because of the bad Hardware but because Phoronix compared entry level AMD cards with mid level Nvidia cards... the cheapest 4070 ti super costs here 820 Euro a 7900 XT only costs 670 Euro So obvious if you compare more expensive and therefor highend cards against cheaper therefor mid / low end cards of amd amd looses...

                    What matters is frames per buck...

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