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  • #11
    If anything, this work only helps (indirectly) the Apple Co. business. And not much else. So dunno why anyone would be happy about it.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
      Fine, I will be the guy that says it: these people need to shift gears and stop trying to bring Linux to the Mac.

      They come off as the same type of people that squat in other people's property and refuse to leave, it's a trespass mentality, like they are doing it out of spite,

      What they should be doing is working on getting Linux to run perfectly on Qualcomm's Snapdragon, because honestly, if one wants Linux on ARM for the desktop, Qualcomm is where it's at.

      Unlike Apple, Qualcomm is also actively working on bringing an ARM optimized GLIBC and since Qualcomm is actively supporting the effort, maybe the Asahi team could secure official sponsorship for an Asahi on Snapdragon distro.

      That to me is the better play than this nonsense.
      gpu is pretty weak in new Qualcomm Snapdragon

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      • #13
        Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
        Fine, I will be the guy that says it: these people need to shift gears and stop trying to bring Linux to the Mac.
        people work on what they want to work on. they don't owe you snapdragon support. who are you to tell them what they should work on? maybe they don't want to work on snapdragon support. maybe you should work on snapdragon support and stop telling other people what to do.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by m4tx View Post
          That's impressive. And it would be funny to see gaming on Asahi Linux easier than on macOS.
          That is a pretty low bar though.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
            Fine, I will be the guy that says it: these people need to shift gears and stop trying to bring Linux to the Mac.

            They come off as the same type of people that squat in other people's property and refuse to leave, it's a trespass mentality, like they are doing it out of spite,

            What they should be doing is working on getting Linux to run perfectly on Qualcomm's Snapdragon, because honestly, if one wants Linux on ARM for the desktop, Qualcomm is where it's at.

            Unlike Apple, Qualcomm is also actively working on bringing an ARM optimized GLIBC and since Qualcomm is actively supporting the effort, maybe the Asahi team could secure official sponsorship for an Asahi on Snapdragon distro.

            That to me is the better play than this nonsense.
            " These people who think they know better than us Babylonians about writing. Why we INVENTED writing. But now these "squatters" come along with their papyrus instead of writing on clay tablets like us. That's where the REAL action is at ! "

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            • #16
              Eow, this is absolutely amazing work. And I love how she casually name-drops a number of working AAA titles throughout her blog post, as if it was no big deal in getting then to work.

              Kudos to Alyssa and everyone else who made Linux gaming feasible on Apple Silicon, even more so than the macOS installations that those systems originally shipped with.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
                What they should be doing is working on getting Linux to run perfectly on Qualcomm's Snapdragon, because honestly, if one wants Linux on ARM for the desktop, Qualcomm is where it's at.
                I'll bite.
                The M-series chips are miles better than Qualcomm's desktop chips. It's not even close. Macbooks as a whole are better than any of the Qualcomm laptops out put, again, by a mile. Some people like/want the hardware, but also want Linux. Hence, the Asahi project. Tada. I know, critical thinking isn't your strong suit but that wasn't a whole lot of steps to get to the obvious answer.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by t1r0nama View Post

                  By that time those devices will be unusable, too slow for everyday use, battery would need replace, ssds will be on their way to death. 8 GB models are pretty much obsolete even today. You can not upgrade ram or ssd on those devices.
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                  You can replace battery in most macbooks, with reballing even the SSD and RAM. But that's not needed, because I don't know about any Mac SSD to die on wearing out. And about RAM, shouldn't be Linux less demanding? Otherwise I can hack it to install newer macOS or use the old one.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by V1tol View Post
                    In Apple world nobody cares about supporting OS older than 2 generations
                    That's because if you develop for iOS, or even 3rd-party technologies like Google Flutter, you need the last version of macOS. And Xcode is tied up with macOS version and allows to build only 2 versions back. The developer would need a virtual machine and that is too much hassle (and too much on the small storage and inside the small RAM).

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by t1r0nama View Post

                      The MAIN thing that makes those chips that good is mac os. When you remove it from an equation and install linux you end up with crippled laptop that is barely usable and will never come close to mac os on that hardware. Many things will never work on them and apple may suddenly even block you from booting linux on their devices.
                      Apple didn't block anything in the last 20 years. Macs are meant to be open.

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