Steam On Linux Drops Below 2% For August 2024 Survey

[qarium]

Steam should go with NetBSD

we already have 2 players who go with BSD its apple and also sony playstation

and the result is that ordinary people get nothing out of this they make closed walled garden DRM systems and they never give back any of the code they write for their sony playstation products...

[Espionage724]

I don't like entertaining Steam on Linux; the only game I really played from it was Dota 2, and I managed that fine in the most unsupported manner with steamcmd and resorting to bot matches

Steam's as-bad as Discord and other Electron apps; I just want to play games, not have a several-hundred MB GPU-eating background client making sure I'm using software "correctly". Paired with it being broken multiple times on Wayland (bad enough they had to add a compatibility checkbox option), and stripping of features to run it lighter (vgui), I just got tired of dealing with it on Linux. The stuff I play nowadays either runs in no-frills Wine, or isn't a question if I'm running Windows.

[mSparks]

Did you even like try reading the rirst 6 lines of text?

"Since then the experimental driver has grown to fully support a multitude of GDI and GPU accelerated applications and games and is now in the process of being upstreamed."

then you watch the actual presentation and learn "fully support" means what got upstreamed is barely functional accelerated 2D software support and some "ideas" how 3D acceleration "could" work.

[MillionToOne]

Alexandros Frantzis, october 2023

https://indico.freedesktop.org/event/4/contributions/199/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=relxcJiHBnA

Did you even like try reading the rirst 6 lines of text?

"Since then the experimental driver has grown to fully support a multitude of GDI and GPU accelerated applications and games and is now in the process of being upstreamed."

[mSparks]

I have managed to get Wine run under wayland, with games. You got a source for that youtuber?

Alexandros Frantzis, october 2023

https://indico.freedesktop.org/event/4/contributions/199/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=relxcJiHBnA

[rabcor]

Eh I honestly think it's a good thing linux userbase stays small, if we got flooded by people who grow enough of a brain to realize microsoft and apple are actually out to get them, linux would become mainstream. Then the current murder of open source communities all over being orchestrated by DEI assholes like ibm/red hat, the carcass of the FSF, the linux foundation and others from frankly unknown sources, would ramp up to 11 very fast until there'd be nothing left and we'd end up with either linux as unusable garbage of an OS or we'd end up with just another piece of spyware OS like windows.

dude, you are talking about people who voluntary install steam drm crap. 2% are too cheap to buy and incompetent to pirate windows, dont see that changing anytime.

Indeed. I mean more and more people are waking up t othis because it is now public knowledge instead of just a (true at least since windows 10) conspiracy theory that windows is spying on you (and so is android, and you don't even need anything more than a phone to realize this snice you'll get shit you talked about near your phone advertised to you next time you're on it), people are just this willing to sacrifice privacy and security for convenience it turns out. I don't understand it, and I don't want to understand it, but that's how it is.

[MillionToOne]

afaik proton (wine) is nowhere near close to wayland support, It has barely functional 2D software support and some "ideas" how 3D acceleration "could" work. There is a video on youtube of the single developer who has put some time into contributing for it discussing what a shitshow it is.

Therefore seems likely at this juncture that wayland will never natively support any kind of graphics intensive application running on wine or any of it's forks.

I have managed to get Wine run under wayland, with games. You got a source for that youtuber?

[discordian]

Seems likely. Nothing much interesting happened tbh. But it is gonna be very interesting to see what happens when some 50% of windows machines go end of life in a year, and the only supported windows version includes sending everything you do and save on windows to people who specialise in industrial espionage and blackmail. I suspect/hope the numbers of windows users then drops of a cliff, that or everyone is in a lot of trouble.

dude, you are talking about people who voluntary install steam drm crap. 2% are too cheap to buy and incompetent to pirate windows, dont see that changing anytime.

[mSparks]

No. I imagine Proton will get it when it's considered stable.

afaik proton (wine) is nowhere near close to wayland support, It has barely functional 2D software support and some "ideas" how 3D acceleration "could" work. There is a video on youtube of the single developer who has put some time into contributing for it discussing what a shitshow it is.

Therefore seems likely at this juncture that wayland will never natively support any kind of graphics intensive application running on wine or any of it's forks.

[MillionToOne]

by steam i meant proton.
i know wine lately started to add support for wayland (still not complete) but does proton has it yet?

No. I imagine Proton will get it when it's considered stable.