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  • #41
    Originally posted by Volta View Post

    It was explained to you many times: Microsoft had a monopoly. Most important desktop and business applications were created for Microsoft. People have become so familiar with Microsoft that they are afraid of change. Therefore, even Apple has a huge problem to gain comparable market share. More importantly, Apple's first products were well ahead of Windows, but that didn't help them. Their market share has always been pitifully low. Linux is fragmented and this is both its strength and weakness. SteamOS, ChromeOS and Android are so successful because they are single products, unlike dozens of Linux distributions (Ubuntu took a similar approach with Unity and gained momentum - it was used in restaurants and many other places, but they screwed up by abandoning Unity). However, the success of these derivatives would not have been possible if Linux had been a single product from the beginning. Fortunately, everything is on the right track. SteamOS uses the same stack as a typical Linux distro and its success, improvements are immediately translated to individual distros. The same cannot be said for Android or ChromeOS, which use a different stack and are only important from a prestige point of view. To sum up, Linux has a chance to break down the wall thanks to SteamOS. Thanks to the Valve system, users will become familiar with Linux, and Linux itself will significantly advance in graphics support.
    Android and ChromeOS are popular for the same reason Windows are popular: They come pre-installed on the device. Almost no one formats their mobile phone and installs another operating system, mods aside. Android is used by the biggest mobile phone manufacturers, therefore, it is successful. People buy THE PHONE, not the OS.

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    • #42
      I think BSD will take over desktop Market share before Linux does

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      • #43
        Soon W11 will take over W10 as most popular Windows OS. Lots of Windows based laptops will be soon obsolete when support of W10 will be axed. What then ? some or most of hardware (laptop) will be converted to use of some Linux distro.

        And anyway, Valve has done great work with their Linux console and it will shown at some point to also Linux desktop.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post

          Dude, miners buy the AMD gpus, not gamers. That is why they aren't used in gaming.
          So Nvidia GPUs are bad for Mining now? Didn't know. Also surprised that miners are now so brokies that they focus on the rx 7800xt instead of the 7900er cards.

          Have you any references that this is a real thing or do I just have to trust you?

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          • #45
            Originally posted by HEL88 View Post
            If you use the words 'fairly impressive' for 2.4 million, what would you use for 115 million?

            2.4 is very little. If all Linux users bought the AAA game, the sales result would be considered a complete failure.

            2% of the market after 10 years is a poor result, not an impressive one.​
            The only reason it fell was because of the chinese market, and most of those are so poor they won't pay for shit anyway and only play f2p games. So yes, nobody cares.

            Linux marketshare in a proper western country, where people have enough money to buy games at their actual full price you know, is a lot higher than 2%. So get rekt.

            PS: if you talk about regional pricing then nobody cares because ultimately the dev will get a far smaller profit out of it.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by blackiwid View Post
              So Nvidia GPUs are bad for Mining now? Didn't know. Also surprised that miners are now so brokies that they focus on the rx 7800xt instead of the 7900er cards.

              Have you any references that this is a real thing or do I just have to trust you?
              Mining is so 2k19.

              Now it's all about AI with Nvidia.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Weasel View Post
                Mining is so 2k19.

                Now it's all about AI with Nvidia.
                I didn't claim that people buy thousand of AMD cards now to mine I just asked for evidence for that claim. I also think that is not likely the case.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Volta View Post
                  Therefore, even Apple has a huge problem to gain comparable market share.
                  I disagree with this point.

                  It doesn't problem, because it doesn't target the entire market. Apple's share has risen beautifully in 15 years, from 3% to 21%. And their products are quite expensive therefore less accessible to most of the world than PCs.

                  It doesn't tell you it's best for gaming, it doesn't tell you it's best for corporate offices or authority offices. It doesn't tell you it's cheaper.

                  They chose their path and within that path they deliver a quality product. And people have appreciated it.
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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by ezst036 View Post
                    This is likely mostly the Steam Deck effect, however, there are natural reasons why it is better to choose Linux for gaming.

                    Computer Base recently ran some tests and found that Linux is faster (just barely) than Windows for gaming.

                    https://www.computerbase.de/2023-12/...zum-spielen/2/
                    I remember an Article from Valve. It was called faster zombies.

                    It said the same, but I can't recall why.

                    Nvidia then improved their drivers, and also their windows drivers, because they found out their hardware was more capable then they expected.
                    This because they now could see all code.

                    If I recall right there was a bit less overhead on Linux.

                    The days when steam was still big news on Linux.

                    So if not most games were written for Windows, games would run faster on Linux.

                    I am happy with all the work done, but still hope for more Native Linux games.

                    I cant find the original post from Valve but:

                    Everybody knows that one factor in creating a good gaming experience is throughput. Ask me what one factor in creating a good gaming experience is and before you even finish the question I'll be on my feet, slapping whatever it is you're holding out of your hands and bellowing "throughput". So when


                    The post goes on to identify some “microsecond overheads per batch” in Direct3D that don’t exist in OpenGL, and ponders how it might take the improvements they’ve made to Linux zombies and apply them to Windows zombies. Read all about it on the Valve Linux blog.​
                    That original blog gives a 403 error these days.

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                    • #50
                      It would be very helpful if Valve separated the stats by region, or at least made sure that it surveys the same number of people from each region in each month.

                      (Edit: The second option is useful for enthusiast stat tracking, but not for developers. Developers could really use stats by region.)

                      Originally posted by HEL88 View Post
                      It just amazes me how the best desktop system (the most trouble-free, with the best software, the fastest and safest, plus you can have it for FREE) that is Linux
                      Because it's not, especially when it comes to gaming. People use what is convenient. Valve is doing a good job making Linux more accessible to gamers, but if you choose Linux you're still going to face more compatibility problems.
                      Last edited by ET3D; 03 December 2023, 07:02 AM.

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