ASUS Details ROG Ally Specs - $699 Gaming Handheld With AMD Z1 Extreme

[avis]

Thank you for explaining how a Linux server looks like to an AWS engineer
And regarding "high speed internet switches", it really depends on the vendor, but the example you brought is partially wrong: CIsco's IOS is proprietary, but IOS XE is Linux-based, and IOS XR is QNX-based. So it really depends on which switch you're using. Other vendors line Juniper are 100% Linux-based. And the switches we develop and use internally in AWS are also 100% Linux.

How any of this is even remotely related to desktop Linux?

[r1348]

Whoa, stretching Linux to the limits, aren't we?

1. What parts of the internet? Most high speed Internet switches are on OSes which have nothing to do with Linux, i.e. Cisco.
2. OK, web servers run Linux, so what, is this a bloody desktop OS? Do your web server also have Xorg/Wayland/DE/anything? No? Nothing? Let me tell you what they have: CPU/RAM/storage/NIC and that's just it. Not even a keyboard, mouse or display. A huge chunk of them are virtualized, so in reality they have nothing. Everything is virtualized.
3. Do you know what else runs Linux? Supercomputers, but what are we discussing here? Yeah, a bloody rich desktop OS which means a lot more than that. It means display output and recording (i.e. casting/streaming, oh boy, Linux sucks for that), UI, 2D/3D graphics, mouse/keyboard input, audio output and input, etc. etc. etc.

Yeah, do not try to reason with me like a guy later in the discussion opined because I'll destroy you with heavy blunt arguments.

Linux fans for some reasons try to use this stupid meaningless argument of web servers/supercomputers and even bloody Android which only has the heavily patched old Linux kernel and that's it. So bloody pathetic.

Thank you for explaining how a Linux server looks like to an AWS engineer
And regarding "high speed internet switches", it really depends on the vendor, but the example you brought is partially wrong: CIsco's IOS is proprietary, but IOS XE is Linux-based, and IOS XR is QNX-based. So it really depends on which switch you're using. Other vendors line Juniper are 100% Linux-based. And the switches we develop and use internally in AWS are also 100% Linux.

[citral]

The sales numbers... there's this thing called a preorder. The product was literally unveiled less than a month ago at this point, and none have shipped to the public, it's not going to have an active subreddit.

Why not? The deck had a huge one way before it even shipped. Also countless people are cancelling their preorder now that the cat is out of the bag. It's about 75% slower than the deck at 10W and gets obliterated at 7W, the lowest it can go. It's not portable.

[microcode]

What tells you it's selling so well? The subreddit has literally 500 members...

The sales numbers... there's this thing called a preorder. The product was literally unveiled less than a month ago at this point, and none have shipped to the public, it's not going to have an active subreddit.

[theriddick]

A lot of these 3rd party companies use the No need to deal with compatibility issues or non working anti-cheat problems as a advertising bullet point.

There are still loads of developers or publishers resisting the idea of anti-cheat under Linux/Proton unfortunately; I see daily comments about people less informed about this issue having the problem with their Linux install or SD. It's not going away.

[qarium]

Um, nice discussion we've got here, more people join in to support ad hominem and insults. "Microshite" has a valuation close to $2.3 billion. What have you achieved? May I get your credentials please? Or you're here anonymously to slander incredibly successful companies?

this number "$2.3 billion" has only relevance for Plutocrats means people who believe that the one with the most money should rule the world.
we get it you are a plutocrat because of this this number is important for you.

outside of these plutocrat world no one cares if they make 10 billion or 100 billion dollars..

[citral]

It is selling very well already, and Valve loses nothing (except the costs, obviously) by having good software support for it. As for performance at 10-15W, this could very well be a software thing, and if SteamOS does a better job of it on the device, that'll mean more wins for the less-crappy platform.

What tells you it's selling so well? The subreddit has literally 500 members...

[microcode]

Why should they put extra effort into supporting a device made by an anti-consumer company that performs worse below 15W? Valve has nothing to do but keep working on their vision, which is not a quick cash-grab for shareholders sponsored by insecure Microsoft.

This will end up like the xbox vs ps2 debacle, except valve is not sony when it comes to consumers and open-source community.

It is selling very well already, and Valve loses nothing (except the costs, obviously) by having good software support for it. As for performance at 10-15W, this could very well be a software thing, and if SteamOS does a better job of it on the device, that'll mean more wins for the less-crappy platform.

[microcode]

I believe Steam OS 3.5 is supposed to ship with a public "desktop" version for anyone to install on their PC. Presumably, at that point, a company like Asus could simply package it with the requisite drivers and customization for their handheld and ship it.

There is more to it than that though; there are a lot of things in SteamOS on the SteamDeck that don't make sense on a general desktop version of it, but which would make sense on the Ally. ASUS is also clearly working with Microsoft directly, so are unlikely to be the ones to distribute a well-customized SteamOS for Ally.

[avis]

Crap handheld, obviously, according to a bunch of self-proclaimed analysts here on Phoronix. "Bad controls", "No Linux, no purchase from me", "bad UI", "sponsored by Microsoft", "abandonware in making" (the handheld hasn't even been released yet), etc. etc. etc. Here take this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwyjArlsaI

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-ally-can-emulate-popular-gaming-consoles-including-ps3-psp-3ds-wiiu-xbox360-and-nintendo-switch

It never ceases to amaze me how self-entitled Linux users are. According to them, their choices of OS or licensing model decide how successful products will be. Too bad this has never been the case and never will be the case. Actually the contrary is true, the opposite of such preferences is what the world is all about. I'm so glad I've stopped following mentions considering the amount of insults and name calling my logical and rational comments receive from Open Source zealots.