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  • #21
    Mark the day, I got that survery yesterday. The first time in... can't remember.
    But it was on my Linux Zen setup.

    I wonder how these numbers are collected at all.
    Stop TCPA, stupid software patents and corrupt politicians!

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    • #22
      I had the survey yesterday too. The fight between Arch and Ubuntu users sums up the Linux community.

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      • #23
        Some Fedora users claim that they are as much as Ubuntu users, but I haven't never seen Fedora in steam survey!

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        • #24
          I also got a survey for the first time in years... I would add my pc to protondb, but it seems they broke copy/paste somewhere along the way... or maybe steam isn't entirely wayland compatible.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by NM64 View Post
            Nevertheless, have you considered the option of an active DisplayPort 1.4 to HDMI 2.1 adapter?
            Those don't work! Already tried a few. They default back to 4k60hz which I do not want. Also you loose VRR... It will only be possible with DP2.0 adapters.. maybe... Time will tell.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by theriddick View Post

              Those don't work! Already tried a few. They default back to 4k60hz which I do not want. Also you loose VRR...
              Losing VRR is a given but, as for if they work or not, they definitely work for 4k 120Hz on Windows with the aforementioned caveats. Was this the case for you, i.e. it's just that they don't work on Linux, not that they don't work at all?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by NM64 View Post

                Losing VRR is a given but, as for if they work or not, they definitely work for 4k 120Hz on Windows with the aforementioned caveats. Was this the case for you, i.e. it's just that they don't work on Linux, not that they don't work at all?
                I can't remember now if I tested on Windows or not, think I did. Isn't DP2.0 meant to allow VRR? I kind of don't want to loose features, screen probably does have DSC since its a newish higher end one (LG C1).

                Either way its such a hassle messing with all the million ways to try and solve it, to only come away empty handed.... I truly hate Linux's crap display handling, its built all around programming and NOT for desktop users expecting advanced functionality..

                I remember not that long ago people telling me to shut up about the acquaintances with display management under Linux since i should only be doing productivity/programming stuff anyway and NOT gaming/power-desktop-usage stuff.. (streaming etc).

                Anyway improvements are being worked on, at snails pace however...

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by theriddick View Post
                  Isn't DP2.0 meant to allow VRR? I kind of don't want to loose features, screen probably does have DSC since its a newish higher end one (LG C1).
                  You mean VRR over active adapters, right? Because even DP1.2a supports VRR and predates VRR over HDMI by several years (in fact, VRR originated on eDP from panel self-refresh).

                  And yes, the C1 supports DSC, but it's kind of a moot point since the panel is 10bit and maxes out at 4k 120Hz anyway which is enough even for 40Gbps HDMI let alone 48Gbps (though, in theory, DSC could be useful for devices like the PS5 which have a mere 32Gbps HDMI 2.1 output, almost like it's actually internally outputting DisplayPort 1.4...).

                  Also I'm pretty sure you can't use DSC with HDMI 2.0 and older because DSC relies on the packet-based nature of DisplayPort and/or HDMI 2.1.
                  Last edited by NM64; 02 October 2022, 10:12 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Well I found out SP196 CHIP will have DP2 to HDMI2.1 support with VRR. But it only JUST got announce so give it a year. Allot of trouble, keep in mind HDMI2.1 offers 48Gbps while DP1.4 is still limited to 24Gbps I think..

                    DP2.0 isn't a thing yet, even 40 series don't have it. Only new Intel GPU's and MAYBE AMD 7000 cards... this basically means almost nobody will be able to resolve this issue by themselves anytime soon. We back to waiting on HDMI Forum to stop being pains!

                    Originally posted by NM64 View Post
                    Also I'm pretty sure you can't use DSC with HDMI 2.0 and older because DSC relies on the packet-based nature of DisplayPort and/or HDMI 2.1.
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                    You need to deploy driver hacks under Linux to force custom signal switching.
                    I've been through this already, spent over a week doing in-depth problem solving. Unless someone can setup a camera and show me they found a solution; I won't be subscribing to any more theories... some of us actually want to use their PC's not just spend months problem solving!
                    Last edited by theriddick; 02 October 2022, 10:43 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by theriddick View Post
                      Allot of trouble, keep in mind HDMI2.1 offers 48Gbps while DP1.4 is still limited to 24Gbps I think..
                      DP1.4 is 25.92 Gb/s of 32.4 Gb/s total bandwidth
                      DP2.0 is 77.37 Gb/s of 80 Gb/s (changed encoding scheme).



                      Originally posted by theriddick View Post
                      DP2.0 isn't a thing yet, even 40 series don't have it. Only new Intel GPU's and MAYBE AMD 7000 cards... this basically means almost nobody will be able to resolve this issue by themselves anytime soon. We back to waiting on HDMI Forum to stop being pains!
                      Ryzen 7000 CPUs support HDMI 2.1 and DP 2.0 from the iGPU, but DisplayPort is limited to UHBR 10 (10 Gbps per lane), which would be 38.69 Gb/s (40 Gb/s):



                      RX 7000 (RDNA3) should support UHBR 20 and the full capability of DisplayPort 2.0:

                      Full implementation of DisplayPort 2.0 coming to AMD's RDNA 3 GPUs, including 16K resolution at 60 frames per second.

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