Google Shutting Down Its Stadia Game Streaming Service

[Leopard]

Often where purchasing power is lower stealing skill is higher.

So they steal hw left and right in those places to run games?

[Ironmask]

Why would they, GMail is profitable (and highly so). People are giving Google far to much flak for cancelling projects that isn't profitable as if they where a charity. The only reason the list of dead Google projects is so large is because the dared to invest in ideas that just turned out to be non viable in the end but people behave as if Google is cancelling project just to hurt them personally.

You seem to be the one who thinks Google is a charity.

Google does not make projects to "explore" them or to "innovate", everything Google has done, Stadia, G+, has been a bad clone of an existing, better product and the only reason they existed was to get more market dominance. And after they got people dependent on them, they pull the rug from under their userbase because, just like a AAA game studio executive, it wasn't immediately making a billion dollars an hour so therefor it's unprofitable and not worth maintaining. Mind you, this is not normal. Other corporations like Microsoft will support a product for years if not a decade before killing it off, even if nobody uses it.

There is literally zero good intention behind Google's constant failed products which only serve to show how bad they are at planning and investing. And I don't mean "good intention" in a humanitarian way, it's a corporation, they'd sell their grandmother's soul for a nickel. I mean in a corporate way. Genuinely trying something new, something to improve people's lives, something to innovate. Those things already exist, other people made them, and then Google comes along and half-heartedly tries to make a bad knockoff of it and then ruins people's workflows when they kill it off. Google is the Apple of web services.

Google doesn't intend to hurt people personally, but they've done tons of damage. People aren't coming out of this unscathed either. Bear in mind that people will not be getting their save data for their games. They'll get a financial refund, but they just wasted a ton of time and will have to waste more time getting back to where they were in the same game on a different platform now. That didn't have to happen if they just, you know, didn't pull this malicious half-assed stunt to get more people hooked on their infrastructure so they can milk their customers out of more personal data.

This is what pisses me off when people defend Google or are optimistic when they make a new product or programming language (especially the latter). No, it's not an alternative, it's not healthy, they're making another part of our infrastructure that people will naively adopt and use and then Google will drop it and then we have another series of 404 pages and a new COBOL to worry about. Already can't wait to hear how much Go code we're gonna have to clean up in a decade.

[reavertm]

My bad that I thought that I could use my card's full potential with HDMI 2.1 Who could've thought that the best GPU vendor for Linux will lack such feature.

HDMI is wonky also on Nvidia with proprietary drivers. My 34" monitor does not get detected over HDMI in reliable fashion under Linux while DP works like a charm.

[slagiewka]

If you have a Mac just use USB-C connector on M28U it will charge it as well. (Assuming that you have relatively decent MacBook). It is display port over USB-C so win win.

It's the 14 M1 Pro. The problem is that the manual for M28U mentions supported resolutions and refresh rates for HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4. I can't find any details what's the limit for the USB-C port. I know it runs 4K 60 with PD (though only 15 W), but Gigabyte is quiet on the limits. Not even what type C cable to use. I have a 10 Gbps cable, but that's obviously not enough. I might eventually buy some 40Gbps cable and see where it leads me. But this is guess work at this point.

Those aren't interactive. No need for a good upstream connection and they can be buffered for more than a fraction of a second. Game streaming is far more demanding, like everything else to do with gaming.

My reply was to a discussion about which streaming put a stop to piracy. Not whether game streaming is feasible to do.

Research pays.

My bad that I thought that I could use my card's full potential with HDMI 2.1 Who could've thought that the best GPU vendor for Linux will lack such feature.

[ssokolow]

Exactly, only a real twit would believe that they "own" a game from the Steam DRM platform. I would go so far to say it is an unspecified time limited rental more than "permanent" though.

It depends. I've been meaning to check out some of those Steam emulators people link to for games that I dragged the contribution slider to $0 on in Humble Bundles for being Steam-only but redeemed anyway because it was the era when GOG was still pushing GOG Connect.

[nokipaike]

they turned it off because they are making agreements with the producers of tv and movies online, on my tv, which is a webos based LG, they even notified me on the notifications of the remote control connection.

[shinger]

IN other words, start taking your distance from those cloud nonsense. Nothing is yours you are just paying for something and if they don't like you you are out or if they are not getting enough money you are OUT!!. Just like those tv series if they they are not getting enough viewer counts, they cancel the serie even after 1 season. Just waist of your time.

Know about its existence and work with it in your professional life, but don't participate yourself.

[vaparetia]

Sigh…. Add it to the list….

[doomie]

It's very obvious to me there is no gamers in the whole department of Stadia -- at least for the people who have a say.

Gamers are screaming for 10s of ms extra latency, while Stadia wants adding hundreds more in the name of "Cloud Gaming". What a brilliant idea.
For a concrete product, can't they just collaborate with DeepMind and Paradox to make better AIs for SLGs, which is not sensitive to latency.

And it was never about anything but control. The same google pretend to care about "climate change," but remote gaming is inefficient. They want default control over, in order to effectively gatekeep, more of the entire concept of electronic gaming; sort of the same way that in a free market system you have default control of your own funding capability. I know they marketed the idea of "easier access" but that's marketing, since the total setup would have to have been a small fraction of their + ISP pricing to actually make "access" an argument, even if latency and resulting market size weren't such obvious problems. inb4 someone writes a novel telling me that it actually worked on a 56k modem but my attitude is holding back the progress of humanity because I don't want to pay a sub fee for oxygen. Just own nothing (let them own everything) and be happy already. It's not a conspiracy, it's just a really bad deal. Gamers apparently agreed and so they're ending it. TBH it was DOA and google is only now signing the cert. Non-story IMO

[Dukenukemx]

Cloud gaming will never have a future. The only reason corporations even considered it was because of reoccurring revenue. That and whoever came up with it has never played games or worked in networking. Gamers don't like input lag and you'll never fix it due to speed of light.... err electricity. If Google can't make it work then it will never work. Not that Google had the right idea where you had to buy the games and pay for 4k. This should work like Netflix where you pay a monthly fee and have access to all the games. Even that doesn't work since nobody wants any amount of input lag. If cloud gaming didn't take off during COVID, along with PS5 and GPU pricing and shortages then it has no future.