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  • Originally posted by Mez' View Post
    You'll get all cryogenic on us when that happens.

    More seriously, whether it's a steady non-proportional 0.11 increase (1.13-1.02), or an 11% increase (1.13/1.02), you got your projected calculation wrong.
    I know, it works out to about 500 months which is about 41 years. The rager is still on though.

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    • I would like Steam to report Linux and the SteamOS (whatever is on the Deck) separately. That way it would be easier to see if the rising tide lifts all boats.

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      • Originally posted by birdie View Post

        Whataboutism runs strong with. I'm talking about how Linux sucks, you continue to search hard for any issues in ... a different OS to vindicate Linux. Shall we talk about MS-DOS for good measure?



        Also "WFM" runs strong with you. Every hardcore Linux fan is the same: "but but but ... there are problems in Windows", "but but but ... Linux works for me". Just like 20 years ago. Just like 20 years ago Linux continues to have 1-2% market share.

        I just don't understand why you're trying to convince me of all other people. I've been using Linux since the late 90s as my primary OS - I know it inside out and I can smell BS from a mile away.
        Here we go... Birdie and his superiority complex.
        You first commented on this news with a baseless claim about the Steam Deck desktop, and then you tried to make an argument about Linux issues that won't be fixed by Valve. We understood what you're doing... You do the same each time.
        Who is trying to convince who ? You first came with your usual litany about Windows being a vastly superior OS and now Linux market share always to 1-2%... and you're using Linux since the 90s... and you've made various contributions blablabla (Ah no sorry, you didn't talk about that yet).
        Seriously guy, give us a break.

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        • Originally posted by spykes View Post
          Here we go... Birdie and his superiority complex.
          For the lack of arguments you turn to insults and name calling.

          Originally posted by spykes View Post
          You first commented on this news with a baseless claim about the Steam Deck desktop,
          I admitted my mistake and apologized - something which most open source fans never do but they happily resort to insults.

          Originally posted by spykes View Post
          and then you tried to make an argument about Linux issues that won't be fixed by Valve.
          No, they won't and can't. Their handheld is a special piece of hardware and Valve will be a sole purveyor of their own highly specialized Linux distribution. No, they will not use "default" Arch Linux which is a console oriented distro for power users.

          Originally posted by spykes View Post
          We understood what you're doing... You do the same each time.
          You haven't made it clear. I point to egregious Linux issues which Linux fans turn a blind eye to, while you instead claim that "bad companies" are the sole reason Linux hasn't succeeded.

          Originally posted by spykes View Post
          Who is trying to convince who ? You first came with your usual litany about Windows being a vastly superior OS and
          I've never claimed that Windows is vastly superior. I said Windows as a platform exists, Linux does not. Again for the lack of (counter)arguments are you're full of bile and resentment.

          Originally posted by spykes View Post
          now Linux market share always to 1-2%... and you're using Linux since the 90s... and you've made various contributions blablabla (Ah no sorry, you didn't talk about that yet).
          Seriously guy, give us a break.
          That's correct. Yes, please. Whenever you have something factual not emotional to say we may continue arguing.
          Last edited by birdie; 02 November 2021, 03:51 PM.

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          • Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
            I used to work with a Black gentleman from Nigeria, who had his B.S. in Chemistry degree from there and his MBA from the U.S.
            Oh here we go lol

            Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
            When all the BLM "protests", riots really, started hitting all over the country in full force, I was having lunch with him and he started going off on all the BLM "protesters" and he was really pissed.
            Black people aren't all the same. Someone from Nigeria won't have the same lived experience as someone whose family was brought here forcefully from Africa hundreds of years ago. His social conditions weren't shaped in the same way.

            Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
            He said to me that people needed to keep things in perspective, we have maybe 100, 200 incidents of police shootings of unarmed people a year, in a country of 310+ million. He told me that I should go to his country, where by his own admission nearly everyone is Black and by his own account, they kill one another in ways that even animals don't.
            Yup this is going exactly where I expected. Just because you perceive an issue to be more of a problem elsewhere than here (or vice versa) does not mean that the problem isn't huge.

            There aren't just 100 or 200 unarmed people shot and killed by police every year, it's over 6000 and a disproportionate amount are black or hispanic. That doesn't even count those that were beaten or shot and survived. You can't cite someone's hunch as if it was fact.

            Also "by his own admission nearly everyone is Black and by his own account, they kill one another in ways that even animals don't."

            What's supposed to be the inferred here?

            Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
            He said to me if i wanted to see police brutality i should go there, where the police arrest you, if you say anything or even try to resist they will beat you to death and dump your body on the side of the road and there is nothing the family can do, no lawsuits, no protests, no trials or charges, they just go to the police station and ask where they can find the body so they can bury it.
            Again, nobody has a monopoly on oppression.

            Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
            I have a Haitian friend who has told me similar stories about Haiti. And i can tell you that in Greece, there was a time when the cops didn't even bother arresting you, if you were caught committing a crime like theft, they would just beat the shit of of you and leave you there unconscious.
            You're basically saying "You think it's bad that police are brutalizing people in the US, in Greece and Haiti, the police brutalize people."

            Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
            I had an uncle that was a hippie, when the junta came in they rounded up all the hippies, took them to the police station and forcibly cut their hair and shaved them beat there asses and then let them go home.
            Which junta? Curious if it's one of the US-backed ones.

            Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
            There may be problems in the U.S. but this is by far the greatest country in the world, we have a system and eventually most people do get what's coming to them when.
            Most police officers who kill or beat unarmed people receive zero real repercussions.

            If a president and there staff lie about the existence of weapons of mass destruction then you get some bad press but otherwise you get to continue for the rest of your term and then get praised 10 years later as if nothing happened.

            If you get investigated by the DOJ because you're refusing to rent appartments to black people, brag about feeling up women without consent, take out a full page ad to try to imprison five black teens and double down on it when they were proven innocent, request that black employees get removed from the floors of your casino when you're visiting, and overall live a life that inspires people to base several evil villains around you, you get to become president.

            Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
            Don't sit here and spew that stupid shit in this forum and expect to not be taken to task.
            You didn't disprove anything he said. You just deflected and said that other countries have violence, too.
            Last edited by Myownfriend; 02 November 2021, 04:05 PM.

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            • Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

              I know, it works out to about 500 months which is about 41 years. The rager is still on though.
              Actually, assuming a perfect Linux/Windows world, a stable absolute increase of 0.11% every month would amount to 37 years and a month (1.13+0.11*445) before Linux overtakes Windows (Linux > 50%) and a relative 11% jump every month would necessitate 37 months (1.13*(1+0.11)^37).
              Last edited by Mez'; 02 November 2021, 04:04 PM.

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              • Originally posted by birdie View Post
                For the lack of arguments you turn to insults and name calling.
                I said you have a superiority complex and that's not an insult.

                I admitted my mistake and apologized - something which most open source fans never do but they happily resort to insults.
                And you should have left it there... But no you had to make a point about Linux issues.


                No, they won't and can't. Their handheld is a special piece of hardware and Valve will be a sole purveyor of their own highly specialized Linux distribution. No, they will not use "default" Arch Linux which is a console oriented distro for power users.
                I am not expecting Valve to solve every bugs of the Linux ecosystem so it's perfectly fine for me. Their contributions are already very valuable to me.


                You haven't made it clear. I point to egregious Linux issues which Linux fans turn a blind eye to, while you instead claim that "bad companies" are the sole reason Linux hasn't succeeded.
                I never said Linux is perfect, it's a software and it has bugs like others software.
                I never made any claim about "bad companies" and reason of Linux popularity... According to me Linux is doing very well

                I've never claimed that Windows is vastly superior. I said Windows as a platform exists, Linux does not. Again for the lack of (counter)arguments are you're full of bile and resentment.
                You said "it's a more stable platform" and I gave you a factual counter argument that you instantly tried to minimize. It's not "bile and resentment", it's fatigue.

                That's correct. Yes, please. Whenever you have something factual not emotional to say we may continue arguing.
                I don't need to spread out my curriculum, nobody gives a shit... I don't give a shit.
                Last edited by spykes; 02 November 2021, 04:50 PM.

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                • Originally posted by sarmad View Post

                  SteamOS is definitely a GNU/Linux distro, and everyone counts it as such. ChromeOS on the other hand runs Linux apps inside a VM, and it wouldn't have needed to use a VM if it was a true GNU/Linux distro.
                  Chrome OS without the Linux apps VM is based on Gentoo, so how is that not Linux then? Even the Gentoo wiki lists it: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ChromeOS

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                  • Originally posted by spykes View Post
                    You said "it's a more stable platform".
                    vs

                    Originally posted by spykes View Post
                    You first came with your usual litany about Windows being a vastly superior OS
                    Originally posted by spykes View Post
                    I said you have a superiority complex and that's not an insult.
                    Originally posted by spykes View Post
                    nobody gives a shit... I don't give a shit.
                    Name calling, playing a psychologist, insulting and changing your words on the fly.

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                    • Originally posted by birdie View Post
                      Name calling, playing a psychologist, insulting and changing your words on the fly.
                      It's sad you feel insulted by this... really.
                      And yes I'm editing my posts when the spelling seems wrong (I'm not a natural English speaker), that's not changing the sense of my sentences.

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