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  • #51
    Originally posted by mozo View Post

    Good joke. Linux was always "install and forget about it" unlike Windows. And Linux automatically installs and upgrades the drivers for decades. Educate yourself.
    LOL D

    My Linux Mint when updated 19 -> 20 crashed totally and i must resistal.

    Not only me (see in comments section):

    How to upgrade to Linux Mint 20 – The Linux Mint Blog


    On Mint 20, I added caja-share for smb GUI, but system totally ignored what will I set via GUI. So, I must set manully via etc/smb.conf.

    For me Linux is much more problematic and needing attention than Windows which has been working properly for years and I only read about the problems of others.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by mdedetrich View Post

      Yeah with laptops (and even desktop motherboards now) having Secure Boot enabled by default (plus typically need some other bios settings, i.e. sleep style for Lenovo laptops) this is complete crap.



      You missed the whole "regardless of distribution part" (and I do run arch/Manjaro btw)
      Almost every modern distro supports Secure Boot. And Secure Boot was invented by Microsoft, so...

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      • #53
        Originally posted by HEL88 View Post

        LOL D

        My Linux Mint when updated 19 -> 20 crashed totally and i must resistal.

        Not only me (see in comments section):

        How to upgrade to Linux Mint 20 – The Linux Mint Blog


        On Mint 20, I added caja-share for smb GUI, but system totally ignored what will I set via GUI. So, I must set manully via etc/smb.conf.

        For me Linux is much more problematic and needing attention than Windows which has been working properly for years and I only read about the problems of others.
        Yet another good joke. Mint is kids distribution, don't blame Linux for Mint's flaws.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by avem View Post
          Windows is a breeze to install and I've seen non-IT people do that without any issues as long as you hand them a USB flash drive.
          Linux is easier to install than Windows. With what the Ubuntus and Fedoras and many others have done, you have to actively hunt out a difficult distro to get a horrible install experience. The old days of Linux on the command line are simply over. Using commands be it FDISK or PART or any other, those have been gone for years.

          And if you come to find out that your motherboard doesn't support TPM while trying to install Windows 11, then Linux is light years ahead of windows in terms of easy of use on the clean install. At that point, Linux blows Windows out of the water.

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          • #55
            Leave them poor Microsoft advertisers to live in the past.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by mozo View Post

              Almost every modern distro supports Secure Boot. And Secure Boot was invented by Microsoft, so...
              Sure, but

              1. Secure boot has nothing Microsoft specific about it, its just a mechanism that stores keys which are used to sign boot images. The problem here is that for secure boot to work with every linux distribution they have to preload hundreds of keys (which constantly change over time).
              2. Its still the case that Linux is harder to set up (which you are ignoring).

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              • #57
                Originally posted by avem View Post

                You are a very uncommon use case. Desktop Linux market share is below 3%. Absolute most (over 95%) people who use it are IT professionals (either developers, programmers or devops). It's near unusable for those who have no IT background. People claim their grandmas use Linux only ... grandmas do not install or maintain it which makes this statement false.
                I was pointing to your statement that "only people with too much time" game on linux, which is simply incorrect.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by mdedetrich View Post

                  Sure, but

                  1. Secure boot has nothing Microsoft specific about it, its just a mechanism that stores keys which are used to sign boot images. The problem here is that for secure boot to work with every linux distribution they have to preload hundreds of keys (which constantly change over time).
                  2. Its still the case that Linux is harder to set up (which you are ignoring).
                  But it's not, I don't know why you have this attitude but it's wrong. Prepare a USB flash and install it with a few clicks, even without a single restart. And it installs many times faster than Windows. On newer machines it can be installed for less than 2 minutes! Hard to install? C'mon... And you can even listen music and browse the web until the installation process. Awesomness and perfection. Windows is decades behind.
                  Last edited by mozo; 02 July 2021, 06:27 PM.

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                  • #59
                    Code:
                    OS Version:
                    Linux                  0.89%      +0.03%
                    
                    Languages:
                    Simplified Chinese     23.68%     +6.18%
                    Korean                 3.74%      +2.16% [I](wow, what an increase. Or just a calculation error?)[/I]
                    And the increase of Chinese (usually Intel with Win7) didn't violate the Linux share, nice.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by mdedetrich View Post

                      You clearly haven't played any recently released AAA games on Linux. Its not uncommon that Linux can only handle such games after they have been worked on/patched in Wine/Proton and until everyone finally moves to a newer kernel that can run the game well because they need the latest in tree graphics driver.

                      On windows you just go to NVidia/AMD and download/update the latest driver (in fact both of these companies have drivers that also auto check for updates).

                      The context of the thread/article is not about basic desktop environments where someone is just using a browser (and even that has problems, wayland/pipewire anyone?)
                      Since when are windows GPU drivers and games not patched for each other?
                      It just happens more behind the scene...

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