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Valve Revises Steam's December 2020 Linux Marketshare To 0.74%
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Originally posted by jo-erlend View PostBut how many people are 1%?
Originally posted by jo-erlend View PostWhat I'm interested in, is whether the number of Linux gamers is large enough to make it sustainable. I don't care if there are less Windows users, I want more Linux users.
(A good dev tem, or a good engine, could get away with "only" 10x, because code is a TINY fraction of modern games - it's nearly ALL assets. Everyone else, especially if they're making "niche" games, would need the higher multiplier for it to be worth the effort).
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Originally posted by HEL88 View PostMaybe, but Linux went down 0.18%. Simple conclusion. Nobody cares about this system on the desktop.
I'm still thinking this is a relatively small number of servers doing "something" that triggers the survey multiple times.
Looking at the GOG graphs, all indications are that around 15M systems, either old machines or servers (low clocked Intel CPUs running Win95) appeared in the stats for the first time. Nobody moved from Linux to Windows, and no significant change in Win10 usage occurred.
You can see the AMD/Intel CPU numbers shift drastically, as well as AMD/Intel/NVidia GPU numbers. It's unlikely that all those happened at the same time in the same month under current market conditions.
(note that Win95 specifically was visible before update but now just "pre-Win10")
Originally posted by arQon View PostAccording to the post about a dozen before yours, ~185K
A good attitude. But to answer your question: no, it isn't. It isn't even close to not even being close. It needs to be at least an order of magnitude higher, and given the competition for people's time these days more like at least 20x-50x.
(A good dev tem, or a good engine, could get away with "only" 10x, because code is a TINY fraction of modern games - it's nearly ALL assets. Everyone else, especially if they're making "niche" games, would need the higher multiplier for it to be worth the effort).Last edited by bridgman; 04 January 2021, 10:38 AM.Test signature
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I see no reason why 6+ cores are unusal now. AMD began the race for most cores with the only partly 6/8 core AMD FX cpus - this was 8 years ago. I am sure these are still counted as 6/8 cores. Intel jumped on the 6+ way much later with Coffee Lake (iX-8) - but that was 3 years ago already. As Intel had a much higher marketshare you can expect that every gaming system which is less than 2 years old has at least 6 cores and is certainly no server.
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Originally posted by Kano View PostbridgmanI see no reason why 6+ cores are unusal now. AMD began the race for most cores with the only partly 6/8 core AMD FX cpus - this was 8 years ago. I am sure these are still counted as 6/8 cores. Intel jumped on the 6+ way much later with Coffee Lake (iX-8) - but that was 3 years ago already. As Intel had a much higher marketshare you can expect that every gaming system which is less than 2 years old has at least 6 cores and is certainly no server.Test signature
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Originally posted by mozo View PostThis is not true. Linux is my main OS for 15 years and it's great. Windows is ugly, slow, bloated, insecure and inconvenient pile of crap.
As bad as Windows might be, I've never had it just outright crash without an obvious reason for over 15 years.
Originally posted by mozo View PostWindows is ugly, slow, bloated, insecure and inconvenient pile of crap.
As for it being an inconvenience, that depends on what you're doing. With games specifically, Linux is much more inconvenient even today, hence the Steam numbers. Yeah some games work fine, after hammering in some solutions and dealing with compromises (last major game I played on Linux was Monster Hunter World, which crashed any time a video played). The growing list of EAC games still don't work on Linux. Getting CP2077 working at all on Linux is an adventure, let alone optimally.
Originally posted by Qaridarium View PostI really do not unterstand why anyone whould use a Nvidia GPU ...
HDMI is straight up broken on Polaris (I can personally confirm it across 5 different GPUs; a GTX 1060 was fine though), and I've heard reports about HDMI issues even with RDNA2. And although this isn't specific to Linux, AMD broke Oculus Link (VR) support on Polaris and Vega GPUs (GPUs that should be more than mature by now) about 5-6 driver releases ago on Windows and doesn't seem interested in fixing it.Last edited by Guest; 05 January 2021, 02:54 AM.
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I know when Conan Exiles came out 2016, it was a constant battle to try defend your base against Chinese gamers who constantly found ways to exploit the game. Certainly kept the Dev's on their toes and a lot of gamers pissed. Was fun watching a bunch of nudes standing on each other to peer in your window.
Point being, one more example of Chinese mingling with everyone else on Steam, until region locking official servers kicked in.Hi
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