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  • #41
    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

    What?
    I just picked four names at random and put two into quotes -- two of them I know the github addresses for and two I don't.

    It makes about as much sense as Arch and Manjaro being in quotes and Ubuntu and Ubuntu LTS not under Steam's OS list

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    • #42
      Its actually because Arch and Manjaro are clearly not real operating systems. They are well known fakes put out by NASA like the moon landings... its cheaper to fake an OS than say a Mars landing (special affects costs are way lower).

      Lol that being said I have converted all my gaming over to linux a year or so ago and have been very happy. Installed my first game via Proton (Rise of Nations) last night and was pleasantly shocked at how well it went! My key gaming buddy is now also switching over to linux for gaming. I only have windows around now for running 3D CAD and VR as linux VR support so far really blows... Performance is un-usable. I have only tried it a couple of times and didnt spend any time tweaking it so maybe it could be made workable.

      The rest of linux has made huge advances in gaming usability and performance!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

        I just picked four names at random and put two into quotes -- two of them I know the github addresses for and two I don't.

        It makes about as much sense as Arch and Manjaro being in quotes and Ubuntu and Ubuntu LTS not under Steam's OS list
        What you did is sarcasm. You put 4 t- wait, I get it now. I get it now...

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        • #44
          Originally posted by zexelon View Post
          Its actually because Arch and Manjaro are clearly not real operating systems. They are well known fakes put out by NASA like the moon landings... its cheaper to fake an OS than say a Mars landing (special affects costs are way lower).
          What are you talking about? They are operating systems - just complicated ones (maybe not that complicated for the latter though).

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          • #45
            Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

            What are you talking about? They are operating systems - just complicated ones (maybe not that complicated for the latter though).
            Arch is not complicated. Its documentation is awesome! From the first second this distribution try to keep you grounded to Linux. I tried a lot of other distribution and not a single one was able to fit my needs as tight as Arch. zexelon maybe should visiting the Arch IRC and getting an idea of how the people behind Arch made it into kernel patch notes at kernel.org to get an idea of how maintainers getting into position before he came up with such foolish conspiration ideas. Or maybe zexelon like to visit other project IRC channels like dri-devel and ask himself why some maintainers over there using Arch?

            But maybe I got zexelon wrong and need to put more humour to his comment: "Man you are so true -> earth is flat like a disk!"
            Last edited by Naquatis; 10-04-2019, 07:55 AM.

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            • #46
              Yes, my comment was meant in pure humor and not as a reflection on the actual operating systems. I personally do not use Arch, it reminds me a lot of Gentoo and I have not the time to commit to getting it up and running these days. That being said I have used the Arch documentation for a number of serious edge projects in Linux (specifically around virtualization) and it has been invaluable even though it was not directly for the distro I was running.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by zexelon View Post
                Yes, my comment was meant in pure humor and not as a reflection on the actual operating systems. I personally do not use Arch, it reminds me a lot of Gentoo and I have not the time to commit to getting it up and running these days. That being said I have used the Arch documentation for a number of serious edge projects in Linux (specifically around virtualization) and it has been invaluable even though it was not directly for the distro I was running.
                Ha I knew it! Nobody would take out this moon conspiration story seriously these days. The time you invest while you are installing will return 1000 times while you are maintaining your system over the years.
                Last edited by Naquatis; 10-04-2019, 10:52 AM.

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                • #48
                  This is my favorite lunar landing conspiracy rebuttal: https://xkcd.com/1074/

                  My personal issue with Arch/Monjaro/Gentoo type distros is that I spend so much time breaking my system due to testing and experimentation I cant afford the time to rebuild it frequently. I used to run Gentoo exclusively in college and it was a truly awesome way to get full knowledge of the inner workings of Linux... However I trashed my system a day before a big paper was due and I needed to get back up and running immediately... that was my first intro to Ubuntu... and I have to admit I was blown away by being up and running again in less than an hour working on my paper.

                  The performance of ubuntu cant touch that of Gentoo compiled with aggressive optimizations but with a good i5 CPU and a Nvidia 1070... I have never noticed any significant issues.

                  Again though the documentation developed by these rolling distros has been invaluable to the Linux community as a whole! Especially those that like to "tinker" regardless of the distro.

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                  • #49
                    I build a beowulf cluster on top of Ubuntu till I replaced it with Debian but all my Debian and upstream (Ubuntu, Mint, Knoppix) experience ended some day with reinstallation. But what really made me stick to Arch is the moment when I need to compile stuff on my own. People like to say the library situation under Debian is that twisted because it also need to fit for hurd and bsd. Yep that does not fit into my day by day compilation needs and I am not willigly like to build my own lib repository on top of Debian only to get to what I really need. Don't get me wrong Debian is a really nice distribution, but not for every situation. Uhhh that sounds like my Steam on Linux debate. =P

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Naquatis View Post

                      Arch is not complicated. Its documentation is awesome! From the first second this distribution try to keep you grounded to Linux. I tried a lot of other distribution and not a single one was able to fit my needs as tight as Arch. zexelon maybe should visiting the Arch IRC and getting an idea of how the people behind Arch made it into kernel patch notes at kernel.org to get an idea of how maintainers getting into position before he came up with such foolish conspiration ideas. Or maybe zexelon like to visit other project IRC channels like dri-devel and ask himself why some maintainers over there using Arch?

                      But maybe I got zexelon wrong and need to put more humour to his comment: "Man you are so true -> earth is flat like a disk!"
                      The problem is that Average Joe doesn't want to read documentation.

                      Therefore Arch isn't for everyone and most will consider it to be complicated.

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