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Originally posted by Michael View Post
Keep in mind no idea what CPU was used in the Windows results you are citing where as my system was with 9900K, among other factors.
I strongly suspect DXVK disables certain Direct3D 11 features for AMD GPUs that's why they end up running faster in Linux than in Windows.
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Originally posted by birdie View PostThis can't be right. Linux cannot run games faster than Windows in emulation (two layers of emulation actually: Win32->Posix, Direct3D11->Vulkan and not to mention that the graphics stack in Windows works close to the kernel and in X.org works as a user process in Linux).
Also, I hate to be that prick, but Wine is not an emulator (but you already knew that I guess)
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
TPU uses Intel Core i7 8700K which is not too much slower than 9900K in absolute most games.
I strongly suspect DXVK disables certain Direct3D 11 features for AMD GPUs that's why they end up running faster in Linux than in Windows.
I am a bit perplexed by his frame time chart though. If I am reading it right, it should be inverted.
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Great benchmarks. Thanks for including the R9 290 Michael, lots of us still using Hawai GPUs. It's unfortunate the development effort has stopped to move the amdgpu work past experimental.
But still fantastic to see it as a 5 year old GPU performing so close to the gtx 1060. The aftermarket models are even quicker as they maintain higher clocks without thermal throttling.
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Originally posted by Brisse View Post
It is not impossible, only unlikely. Imagine a case where Windows performance was crippled due to driver regressions or poor optimization and it worked perfectly well on Steam Play. The latter could win the performance race in such a case. Actually, this might be the case with HITMAN 2. Look at Radeon cards on Windows compared to Nvidia and you will probably notice how poorly Radeon performs in this game on Windows. The Steam Play results are more on par if you compare red and green team.
Also, I hate to be that prick, but Wine is not an emulator (but you already knew that I guess)
Until someone who owns this game and compares its screenshots taken in Windows and Linux using Photoshop's layer difference, there isn't much to talk about. I could have carried out the comparison but I don't have any AMD GPUs in my possession. Michael has but I'm not sure he'd be willing to do that since it's relatively time consuming.
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
TPU uses Intel Core i7 8700K which is not too much slower than 9900K in absolute most games.
I strongly suspect DXVK disables certain Direct3D 11 features for AMD GPUs that's why they end up running faster in Linux than in Windows.
(there are more posts than this one)
It's not a case of DXVK cutting corners, it renders everything correctly, it's just that AMD's DX11 driver is typical AMD cpu-boundware and ends up getting beating by DXVK + radv in some games, even with the translation layer overhead. This doesn't happen on nvidia because their dx11 driver is very efficient.
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Originally posted by Masush5 View Post
Hitman 2 running faster on DXVK + radv compared to native AMD DX11 was already discovered months ago by reddit users:
https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gamin..._than_windows/
(there are more posts than this one)
It's not a case of DXVK cutting corners, it renders everything correctly, it's just that AMD's DX11 driver is typical AMD cpu-boundware and ends up getting beating by DXVK + radv in some games, even with the translation layer overhead. This doesn't happen on nvidia because their dx11 driver is very efficient.
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FWIW, in the next week or two hope to do a Windows vs. Linux Steam Play comparison with the same systems/GPUs.Michael Larabel
https://www.michaellarabel.com/
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