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  • skeevy420
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    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

    GTX 1070 did cost 800 euros in mindfactory.de in Juni 2018. Now it cost around 400 euros here. My Asus RX570 and Asus 4K monitor did cost 478 euros total recently and I can play many games at 4K with good frame rates. So it depends timing and what you buy if 4K gaming is expensive or not. RX 3080 will make 4K gaming more wallet and quality friendly. It is mind blowing to use a 28" 4K monitor after using 24" fullhd monitors over a decade. The Superposition benchmark at 1080p Extreme setting gives avg. 14 fps, so RX570 almost fast as RX580 and RX590.
    Well, yeah, depending on the game, graphical settings, what frame rate you consider to be acceptable, an 8GB 570 might just cut it for 4K gaming. I'd expect the 4GB version to not perform as well at 4K.

    A 570 would certainly cut it as just a desktop card pushing 4K, emulators, older games. All I'm saying is that with newer games at the highest settings aiming for 60fps minimal or 45+ G/FreeSync, we're pretty much stuck with Nvidia X080s for the time being because we know they'll work. Vega's, Polaris, and 10/2070 are all a gamble there since some games are great, some not.

    I'm really hoping that next generation AMD cards make 4K more affordable.

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  • dungeon
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    Anything could do 1080p fine, just depends which app are you running This is from Kabini APU



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  • clapbr
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post

    Just curious, which results are you looking at ?

    With only a couple of exceptions (F1 2018, Thrones) the 580 was comparable to or faster than the 1060 on games except when frame rates were pushing 200 fps... and as Michael said the results are even a bit better at higher resolutions.

    Are you running into bad stuttering on any of the games Michael tested ?
    RX580 barely won 1060 in 2 or 3 games, in the others it was around equal OR crushed.
    I don't play anymore any of the games tested, native games I play and stutter: Dungeons 3, Civilization 6, Albion Online.
    Wine games that I play and also stutter: Grim Dawn, Warhammer Vermintide 2, Torchlight.

    All of those get good fps but stutter with or without vsync. None of them fully use available resources.

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  • torsionbar28
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    For 1080p gaming, the Rx 590 is a real winner. Tied or noticeably ahead of the Gtx 1060 in every game, the Rx 590 is looking like king of the value hill. Based on these results, no sane person would choose a Gtx 1060, especially on Linux.

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  • bridgman
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    Originally posted by clapbr View Post
    Overall terrible results for everything, sad to have gone with rx580 instead of the 1060/1070.
    Just curious, which results are you looking at ?

    With only a couple of exceptions (F1 2018, Thrones) the 580 was comparable to or faster than the 1060 on games except when frame rates were pushing 200 fps... and as Michael said the results are even a bit better at higher resolutions.

    Are you running into bad stuttering on any of the games Michael tested ?
    Last edited by bridgman; 12-16-2018, 08:57 PM.

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  • clapbr
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    Overall terrible results for everything, sad to have gone with rx580 instead of the 1060/1070. Oh and fuck the open drivers, theyre still crap even when comparing with nvidias blob, except for maybe slightly less bugs on desktop (specially kde). At least with my gtx960 I could use 75hz without resorting to ugly workarounds like locking mclk. It also ran at fewer fps but it didnt have mysterious stutters everywhere. Some games run at high fps's but the constant stutters even with LOTS of available resources (6 cores, 10-15% cpu usage, 30-50% gpu usage, 12gb of free RAM) makes me really annoyed. And I'm talking about native games, not wine.

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  • atomsymbol
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    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
    GTX 1070 did cost 800 euros in mindfactory.de in Juni 2018. Now it cost around 400 euros here. My Asus RX570 and Asus 4K monitor did cost 478 euros total recently and I can play many games at 4K with good frame rates. So it depends timing and what you buy if 4K gaming is expensive or not. RX 3080 will make 4K gaming more wallet and quality friendly. It is mind blowing to use a 28" 4K monitor after using 24" fullhd monitors over a decade. The Superposition benchmark at 1080p Extreme setting gives avg. 14 fps, so RX570 almost fast as RX580 and RX590.
    What is the desktop experience with 28" 4K monitor compared to 1080p? Aren't some lines too thin, for example? Fonts in some apps too small, some icons too tiny?
    Last edited by atomsymbol; 12-16-2018, 05:21 PM.

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  • gsedej
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    I did not know 1070ti is not enough for 1080p linux gaming... at least according to the article isnt.

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  • shmerl
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

    To wager a guess, because the 580/590 do 1080p60+ most of the time making the Vega 56 more of a specialty card for 1080p/120 with FreeSync or for 2K at the 60fps standard.
    Only using Vega 56 (Sapphire Pulse in my case), I was able to get stable 60+ fps in The Witcher 3 (Wine+dxvk) at 1920x1200 even in crowded areas on max settings, hairworks off. Polaris is just not enough to reach it. May be it's one of the most demanding examples, but still. Even AMD themselves position Vega 56 as comparable to GTX 1070, and the later is in the test.
    Last edited by shmerl; 12-16-2018, 03:05 PM.

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  • skeevy420
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    Originally posted by shmerl View Post
    Why no Vega 56 in the comparison?
    To wager a guess, because the 580/590 do 1080p60+ most of the time making the Vega 56 more of a specialty card for 1080p/120 with FreeSync or for 2K at the 60fps standard.

    I would have liked to have seen the RX 560 and the 4 & 8 gb 570s thrown in for The Battle of the Budget.

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