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  • #31
    Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post

    A tax is based on the social contract of each nation, citizens pay for their nation's needs according to their ability. Obviously richer citizens should pay more because in the end, they rely on that nation's laws in order to be rich in the first place... If no national order existed, not to mention infastructure etc, the rich 1% would have been slaughtered long ago by the working class they keep exploiting since forever... So to pay more if they are rich is the least they should do...
    Actually, history proves your argument about the working class killing the rich tragically wrong. In most historical cases where there was low or no national order, what more typically happens is that the rich become more like mob/mafia dons hiring lots of mercenaries who kill enough of the workers to cow the rest, making the rich a power unto themselves which, not infrequently, then leads to them either forming or joining the next government. So in reality it's the workers who typically get more out of a strong national order as it forces the rich to at least give lip service to laws instead of making their own.

    The main counter examples of the French Revolution and the Russian February/October revolutions were more about replacing one strong national order with a new strong national order with the winners slaughtering the losers. The same as if the revolutionaries had failed they would have been killed for treason. That's a much different proposition than a 'no-national order' situation laid out above.

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    • #32
      Amazon used to do direct download.

      They switched to Steam.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by stargazer View Post

        Actually, history proves your argument about the working class killing the rich tragically wrong. In most historical cases where there was low or no national order, what more typically happens is that the rich become more like mob/mafia dons hiring lots of mercenaries who kill enough of the workers to cow the rest, making the rich a power unto themselves which, not infrequently, then leads to them either forming or joining the next government. So in reality it's the workers who typically get more out of a strong national order as it forces the rich to at least give lip service to laws instead of making their own.

        The main counter examples of the French Revolution and the Russian February/October revolutions were more about replacing one strong national order with a new strong national order with the winners slaughtering the losers. The same as if the revolutionaries had failed they would have been killed for treason. That's a much different proposition than a 'no-national order' situation laid out above.
        socialism or capitalism is the same, rich are rich poor are poor. I never see the difference

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        • #34
          Originally posted by carewolf View Post
          You disagree with reality?
          Obviously. That is what all uneducated people who defend capitalism do...
          Last edited by TemplarGR; 12-04-2018, 03:48 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by andre30correia View Post

            socialism or capitalism is the same, rich are rich poor are poor. I never see the difference
            How old are you 12? No they are not the same. If you are too uneducated to understand their differences, ask for help, perhaps we will point you to a book or two...

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            • #36
              Dear god, please make this mean that EA games will be available for it and that older retail games can be registered by their pre-existing cd-key.....

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              • #37
                Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post

                Obviously. That is what all uneducated people who defend capitalism do...
                Capitalism was never under attack in what you replied to, in fact everything stated therein implied capitalism in every step. So I would say you are still confirming my theory that you have had a messy divorce with reality.
                Last edited by carewolf; 12-04-2018, 04:03 PM.

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                • #38
                  Steams 30% cut is ridiculous. But what they do isn't. The purchaser being able to get a refund without filing a class action lawsuit is important(Bethesda/Fallout 76). Supporting every OS possible out of the box is important(native/proton/dxvk). And providing bandwidth that scales to the population of a Country is important.

                  Thus far, none of these games producers are doing that. That's the problem. Their product sucks. Cheaper doesn't matter if nobody can play or trust you with their money.

                  The graceful thing to do would be for valve to stop screwing over Indie game developers at 30%. That alone is a destructive market force that kills all the animals in the woods before you ever realize they were there. They needed to fix that yesterday.

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                  • #39
                    I'm all for competition, Valve needs it, but the last thing I want is another bloated piece of trash software to install.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by ThoreauHD View Post
                      Steams 30% cut is ridiculous. But what they do isn't. The purchaser being able to get a refund without filing a class action lawsuit is important(Bethesda/Fallout 76). Supporting every OS possible out of the box is important(native/proton/dxvk). And providing bandwidth that scales to the population of a Country is important.

                      Thus far, none of these games producers are doing that. That's the problem. Their product sucks. Cheaper doesn't matter if nobody can play or trust you with their money.

                      The graceful thing to do would be for valve to stop screwing over Indie game developers at 30%. That alone is a destructive market force that kills all the animals in the woods before you ever realize they were there. They needed to fix that yesterday.
                      This, and Humble and GoG actually have differentiation with DRM-free, bundles, and Humble's lower fees. Nobody wants one more piece of DRM'd trash to install, unless maybe you play Fortnite, in which case you should just get a console already.

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