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    Phoronix: Unreal Engine 4.21 Preview Brings Some Linux Improvements

    Epic Games announced the debut today of the Unreal Engine 4.21 public preview...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...e-4.21-Preview

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    Are there any games that use Unreal that support Linux natively? Like AAA games I mean? Given it's support for Linux as a target has been around for a long time, I'm surprised not to see more.

    We've had games ported like Tomb Raider, Mad Max and DoW3, and I don't know what engines they used but I don't think they supported Linux natively before they were ported to Linux. So I imagine it was a lot harder to port those. But if you've got an UE4 game, of which there are lots, I would imagine it's a lot easier to create a Linux version because the tooling already supports Linux as a target. But they just haven't appeared (correct me if I'm wrong), and that surprises me.

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    • #3
      Its too bad they canceled Unreal Tournament. 😭

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      • #4
        ten or twelve years ago I was sure that the reason of not wide Linux desktop adaptation was:
        - lack of professional software like photoshop, autocad etc.
        - lack of good, native games
        - large amount of different distributions - market fragmentation

        what changed over the time? we had 600 distributions back then - now we have almost 900. situation with games improved a lot, but we still don't have a Linu version of GTA at the same day that we have Windows version. and we still don't have a Photoshop.

        and over these 12 years Linux desktop market share grove from 0,99% to 1,24%...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by uid313 View Post
          Its too bad they canceled Unreal Tournament. 😭
          They did!? That's annoying. Unfortunately, they had to spend all their time and money on Fortnite and Paragon. They're not bad games, but I prefer UT. I don't have the time or interest to get good at either of those.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by michal View Post
            what changed over the time? we had 600 distributions back then - now we have almost 900. situation with games improved a lot, but we still don't have a Linu version of GTA at the same day that we have Windows version. and we still don't have a Photoshop.
            We also don't have itunes. That's a big one because of iphones market share. I had to put windows on one of my friends laptops because I couldn't get itunes to work, apart from that he seemed to be ok with Linux Mint.

            There is also nobody pushing Linux desktop very aggressively in terms of canvassing to get programs ported and getting IHVs to ship PCs with Linux etc. One of the big user friendly distros (Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Manjaro etc) needs to take up that mantle and make it happen. Microsoft is very aggressive in terms of pursuing big organizations, govts etc to make sure they use Windows and also making deals IHVs so PC ship with windows, Microsoft if good at selling. Most people just use the OS that the PC comes with. Here in Linux world we make a good OS but who is selling it to the masses?? (i don't mean for money)
            Last edited by humbug; 10-10-2018, 09:55 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
              They did!? That's annoying. Unfortunately, they had to spend all their time and money on Fortnite and Paragon. They're not bad games, but I prefer UT. I don't have the time or interest to get good at either of those.
              It looks that way.

              To quote Wikipedia:
              Originally posted by Wikipedia
              As of July 2018, there have been no new updates; suggesting that the game's development has been halted or cancelled. The bulk of the developer team has since transitioned to develop and maintain the Fortnite Battle Royale mode.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by humbug View Post
                We also don't have itunes. That's a big one because of iphones market share. I had to put windows on one of my friends laptops because I couldn't get itunes to work, apart from that he seemed to be ok with Linux Mint.

                There is also nobody pushing Linux desktop very aggressively in terms of canvassing to get programs ported and getting IHVs to ship PCs with Linux etc. One of the big user friendly distros (Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Manjaro etc) needs to take up that mantle and make it happen. Microsoft is very aggressive in terms of pursuing big organizations, govts etc to make sure they use Windows and also making deals IHVs so PC ship with windows, Microsoft if good at selling. Most people just use the OS that the PC comes with. Here in Linux world we make a good OS but who is selling it to the masses?? (i don't mean for money)
                I wouldn't call Fedora user friendly. I'm using it as a devel platform and it's ok in this role,

                anyway, I think that Linux desktop doesn't have a person like Steve Jobs that would push it to end users. why Linux desktop would need a second Steve Jobs? because only a big visionary with ambition and high motivation can push something to a wide market of regular people. I guess that Mark Shuttleworth wanted to be such person.

                why it's not easy to promote Linux desktop? let's assume that you create a new distribution, you reuse gnome, kde, whatever. it's not really your product. you don't have a control on it's development. of course you can try to hire 50% of gnome developers and push this environment in some direction, but other distributions will have these changes and your distribution will not gain popularity just because it's more user friendly, because it's not. others has it too sooner or later. I guess it's why Canonical created own Unity interface. but people using other distriubutions didn't adopted it, because it was not standard gnome thing.

                maybe elementary os will step up for the role of Linux desktop leader - it's original, project leader may promote it as its own product (at least desktop part).

                don't get me wrong, but I think that gnome and kde proved over the last 20+ years that they are not a good environments for end users. if they were, we would see wider adaptation on destop market. these environments are good for people who want to tweek things, change settings etc. normal people just want easy to use environments where they will be able to do their jobs.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by michal View Post
                  ten or twelve years ago I was sure that the reason of not wide Linux desktop adaptation was:
                  - lack of professional software like photoshop, autocad etc.
                  - lack of good, native games
                  - large amount of different distributions - market fragmentation

                  what changed over the time? we had 600 distributions back then - now we have almost 900. situation with games improved a lot, but we still don't have a Linu version of GTA at the same day that we have Windows version. and we still don't have a Photoshop.

                  and over these 12 years Linux desktop market share grove from 0,99% to 1,24%...
                  maybe you need 1200 distributions?!

                  Reason Why we have better drivers its because Linux grow has been massive...even IBM can't deny it anymore..
                  Ofcourse Linux grew on what it was best, on server ofcourse..

                  But its on server were big money can come now, its a new market.
                  the games market is already established..

                  Now AMD and Nvidia needs to rush, in the big cat and mouse game..

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post

                    maybe you need 1200 distributions?!

                    Reason Why we have better drivers its because Linux grow has been massive...even IBM can't deny it anymore..
                    Ofcourse Linux grew on what it was best, on server ofcourse..

                    But its on server were big money can come now, its a new market.
                    the games market is already established..

                    Now AMD and Nvidia needs to rush, in the big cat and mouse game..
                    I'm only talking about desktop market here. I know that Linux is server king and also mobile phone king. but this doesn't help in any magic way in it's desktop market share.

                    and I'm afraid that even 1500 distributions will not change it. because it's not about quantity, it's about quality.

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