Ryzen 7 2700 / Ryzen 7 2700X / Core i7 8700K Linux Gaming Performance With RX Vega 64, GTX 1080 Ti

[schmidtbag]

The 8700T/regular/K is a beast of a CPU. Kicks even the previous Extreme Edition, the 6850K. Incredible performance for a great price.

Not really that incredible relatively speaking. When compared to the 8700K, the 6850K is nearly 2 years older, and the max turbo frequency is 900MHz lower. 900MHz for 12 threads is a BIG difference. Clock-per-clock, I wouldn't be surprised if the 6850K is actually faster, due to having an extra 3MB of L3 cache (that, and because Intel hasn't really upgraded their architecture since Haswell). The main benefits of the 8700s are the lower TDP and lower price. And on that note, the pricing just proves how Intel has been gouging us due to lack of competition. I'm not saying the 8700s aren't good or worth getting, but they're a lot less impressive once you clear away the smoke and mirrors.

[Azpegath]

Wow, what is going on at 4K for the Vegas? marek, any idea? Michael, could you test that with the official AMD Vulkan driver as well?

[Herem]

You should test without cpu freq governor in the kernel that slows down Ryzen. Linux kernel is optimised for intel cpus by intel kernel developers that are not test with other cpus.Use only default Bios settings. 400Mhz faster clock in intel cpu is unfair too, so you should down clock that. Ryzen 2700X has more cores and is cheaper, so its better for a gaming/multimedia/sw development PC.

The Ryzen system was showing similar performance relative to the 8700 as most Windows reviews for Xonotics, OpenArena and Tesseract (On the 1080ti at least). It looks like the biggest issue is with the optimisation of the games being ported from Windows when running on Ryzen.

To be fair you can't really blame the developers for this, they obviously ported the games before Ryzen systems were available. Maybe AMD could offer to lend a hand to tune the engine as they did for some titles on Windows. Rise of the Tomb Raider (2016) for instance performed very poorly on Ryzen at launch, but now after tuning the performance is much improved and at higher resolutions it is now runs faster than on any current Intel chips without overclocking.

[anarki2]

The 8700T/regular/K is a beast of a CPU. Kicks even the previous Extreme Edition, the 6850K. Incredible performance for a great price.

[pinguinpc]

pinguinpc that doesn't explain why the i7 pulls ahead by over 60% in some of the tests. Ryzen isn't nearly as bad for gaming on Windows as it seems to be on Linux. These results are a complete disaster and I wonder if they are any better than what an old FX-8350 would deliver.

Frecuency is most determinated, most games dont use core quantity cpu as ryzen

However amd have 5ghz as goal too with ryzen 7nm

Next year will be interesting in gaming because frecuency is only saves intel on gaming but with ryzen on 5ghz, intel need shows better cpu for 2019 but various questions appear like as:

-them choose more frecuency with 10nm ?

-better ipc ?

[schmidtbag]

Kind of interesting, Ryzen seems to perform worse on Linux vs Windows, but Vega 64 seems to perform better (at least in some cases).

[boxie]

You should test without cpu freq governor in the kernel that slows down Ryzen. Linux kernel is optimised for intel cpus by intel kernel developers that are not test with other cpus.Use only default Bios settings. 400Mhz faster clock in intel cpu is unfair too, so you should down clock that. Ryzen 2700X has more cores and is cheaper, so its better for a gaming/multimedia/sw development PC.

not so much unfair, these products are being bencmarked at stock

[darkbasic]

Very interesting, thanks Michael. Can you please also test at the same frequency to see the IPC improvements?

[VikingGe]

pinguinpc that doesn't explain why the i7 pulls ahead by over 60% in some of the tests. Ryzen isn't nearly as bad for gaming on Windows as it seems to be on Linux. These results are a complete disaster and I wonder if they are any better than what an old FX-8350 would deliver.

[pinguinpc]

Frecuency is more used than cores especially at 1080p

Intel is ideal cpu for 1080p

@Michael

Try make delidd for 5.0ghz or 5.2 on AIO