KDE vs. GNOME, X.Org vs. Wayland Radeon Linux Gaming Performance With Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

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  • PackRat
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 281

    #21
    Originally posted by alex79 View Post

    I'm guessing it's the screen tearing but "full pipeline" ticked gets the job done. I'm using both xfce and KDE on Arch and bothe suffer from tearing without it ticked. Than there's Ubuntu Mate with Marco and Metacity that usualy deals with tearing but I find nvidia drivers better for that purpose.
    Thanks alex.I have to check my notes but what you say sounds right.

    People reading please join the discussion and don't be afraid , maybe sometime's the discussion on phoronix seams heated but we are good guy
    s and gal's.

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    • PackRat
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2016
      • 281

      #22
      Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
      Usually articles have some conclusion and now it is missing. So here you are:

      Wayland is bloatware and a waste of human resources.
      Don't worry bro these self appointed gods have made ai machine learning code for them. I have never been a fan of xfce but I'm going to check it out seeing that gnome and kde appear to be google douch bags...

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      • theriddick
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2015
        • 1734

        #23
        The KDE problem with NVIDIA cards is quite selective, some titles have a issue detecting resolutions or giving correct mouse control due to odd screen issues. I have not tested KDE recently with my NVIDIA card so maybe some are fixed but I wouldn't be surprised if I can find the nasty bugs within 10 minutes of using KDE. It's mostly KWIN related, just doesn't like NVIDIA cards much!

        As for the catalyst incident, well AMD did always allow open source drivers back then, unlike NV today.
        Plus freesync option and supporting competition is a good thing, if AMD fall from top end card making forever then it will be bad for all of us.
        I won't be buying a $2000 workstation card, 32GB HBM2 is also excessive, am sure they will come out with a 8GB HBM2 version for a more reasonable price!

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        • tildearrow
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 7096

          #24
          Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
          Wayland is bloatware
          Wayland is a protocol, so it can't be bloatware.

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          • PackRat
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2016
            • 281

            #25
            Originally posted by theriddick View Post
            The KDE problem with NVIDIA cards is quite selective, some titles have a issue detecting resolutions or giving correct mouse control due to odd screen issues. I have not tested KDE recently with my NVIDIA card so maybe some are fixed but I wouldn't be surprised if I can find the nasty bugs within 10 minutes of using KDE. It's mostly KWIN related, just doesn't like NVIDIA cards much!

            As for the catalyst incident, well AMD did always allow open source drivers back then, unlike NV today.
            Plus freesync option and supporting competition is a good thing, if AMD fall from top end card making forever then it will be bad for all of us.
            I won't be buying a $2000 workstation card, 32GB HBM2 is also excessive, am sure they will come out with a 8GB HBM2 version for a more reasonable price!
            I have two r9 280x's 3gb it does not have freesync that came later with 285 2gb has, but still more powerfull card just shit support. Does anything work on Linux I have lot's of cards?
            I have 2 radeon 280's, geforce 660gtx 3gb also a geforce 460. I got a box of old cards too from radeon hd 3000 to ancient 3dfx stuff.

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            • PackRat
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2016
              • 281

              #26
              Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

              Wayland is a protocol, so it can't be bloatware.
              Shh... he is just mad enlightenment beat xfce with wayland support

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              • theriddick
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2015
                • 1734

                #27
                Originally posted by PackRat View Post

                I have two r9 280x's 3gb it does not have freesync that came later with 285 2gb has, but still more powerfull card just shit support. Does anything work on Linux I have lot's of cards?
                I have 2 radeon 280's, geforce 660gtx 3gb also a geforce 460. I got a box of old cards too from radeon hd 3000 to ancient 3dfx stuff.
                If I was in your situation I installed the two r9 280x cards and setup a VM and pass one to a windows7 install and that way you'd have the best of both worlds. FORGET about crossfire btw!

                For the Virtual Machine you will want to virtualize the CPU and memory resources but just pass the second 280x to it, check over at level1techs for more guides and help on setting such a thing up.

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                • PackRat
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 281

                  #28
                  Originally posted by theriddick View Post

                  If I was in your situation I installed the two r9 280x cards and setup a VM and pass one to a windows7 install and that way you'd have the best of both worlds. FORGET about crossfire btw!

                  For the Virtual Machine you will want to virtualize the CPU and memory resources but just pass the second 280x to it, check over at level1techs for more guides and help on setting such a thing up.
                  I can do crossfire with fglrx just got to use centos 6? Sadly I don't have a stable board that supports the iommue thingy... but ya level1techs Iknow about that, thanks.

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                  • theriddick
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 1734

                    #29
                    While you can use fglrx the performance will be terrible plus crossfire under Linux may enable but games don't support it. The net result is significantly worse performances compared to a single card use with amdgpu-dc for example! This is even the case for NVIDIA SLI mode.

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                    • PackRat
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 281

                      #30
                      Originally posted by theriddick View Post
                      While you can use fglrx the performance will be terrible plus crossfire under Linux may enable but games don't support it. The net result is significantly worse performances compared to a single card use with amdgpu-dc for example! This is even the case for NVIDIA SLI mode.
                      fglrx is great with other things like fx software like houdini with opencl and making fire fx. Too bad amd hates me when I use Linux with these cards

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