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  • KDE vs. GNOME, X.Org vs. Wayland Radeon Linux Gaming Performance With Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

    Phoronix: KDE vs. GNOME, X.Org vs. Wayland Radeon Linux Gaming Performance With Ubuntu 18.04 LTS

    For those wondering how the Radeon Linux gaming performance is changed between desktop environments when testing Ubuntu 18.04 LTS out-of-the-box, here are some benchmarks. Not only is it looking at the performance between GNOME Shell 3.28.1 and KDE Plasma 5.12.4, but it's also comparing each desktop environment with its X.Org and Wayland session support. Additionally, these tests were done with both AMD Radeon Polaris and Vega graphics cards.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=26280

  • #2
    Typos:

    Originally posted by phoronix View Post
    As far as the KDE Plasma vs. GNOME Shell performance for this aging but still popular OpenGL Linux gaming,
    (you probably meant game)

    Originally posted by phoronix View Post
    The Deus Ex: Mankind Divded performance
    Originally posted by phoronix View Post
    The slower RX 50
    (extremely slower!)

    By the way, the Dota 2 2560x1440 benchmark is placed twice.

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    • #3
      I wonder what the problem is with Mutter under Wayland.

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      • #4
        I just love KDE Plasma. It's such a complete desktop environment

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        • #5
          > Though in the case of Wayland with the Steam Runtime build of SDL2 still not having the Wayland back-end enabled even if setting the SDL video driver environment variable, it largely comes down still to looking at the XWayland performance overhead where relevant.

          Why not try with environment STEAM_RUNTIME_PREFER_HOST_LIBRARIES=1 SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland ? Am I missing something?
          Edit: Sorry, STEAM_RUNTIME=0 not the former.
          Last edited by AsuMagic; 05-12-2018, 03:04 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by AsuMagic View Post
            > Though in the case of Wayland with the Steam Runtime build of SDL2 still not having the Wayland back-end enabled even if setting the SDL video driver environment variable, it largely comes down still to looking at the XWayland performance overhead where relevant.

            Why not try with environment STEAM_RUNTIME_PREFER_HOST_LIBRARIES=1 SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland ? Am I missing something?
            At least last time I tried that while also setting the SDL video driver for Wayland env var, a number of games still would produce errors on start-up.
            Michael Larabel
            http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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            • #7
              Most people Claim that for gamers only Gnome or Unity is relevant but kde+wayland bring's the best result for ganers in The Most cases.

              I use KDE +gaming for years and every time i See gnome or Unity it feels Like a joke
              Phantom circuit Sequence Reducer Dyslexia

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              • #8
                Michael, what about a standalone X server?
                An example of script I use to run Steam:
                Code:
                vblank_mode=0 XV_VSYNC=0 mesa_glthread=true steam -bigpicture
                And I start this script from console with this command:
                Code:
                xinit previous_script -- :$XDG_VTNR vt$XDG_VTNR -keeptty &> /dev/null
                u

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                • #9
                  Using MATE now because it seems to be easier to get working with NVIDIA card for most things. Will move back to KDE once AMD release some top end cards able to compete with the 1080ti or above, and hopefully some vendors will release some ITX options.

                  EDIT: I did manage to get KDE working again, but it did require some workarounds to resolve problems. Seems ok now.
                  Last edited by theriddick; 05-14-2018, 06:27 AM.

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                  • #10
                    The results of KDE and Gnome are quite close on Xorg or XWayland, I think this is a good result and shows that there are no real gaps anywhere. Based on my experience the XWayland results have not been really smoth, frames look ok/good, but playing games was not always fun as of the lags and input issues. Hope this is better now with XWayland 1.20. Anybody knows which games can run natively on Wayland? Is there maybe somewhere a list?

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