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  • #31
    Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post
    And as for the whole "UNIX Philosophy" thing, when you show me a perfectly UNIX-like Linux distro, especially one with the speed and most importantly simplicity of a systemd-using Linux distro, then we can talk.
    By looking at Unix phylosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_p..._17_Unix_Rules

    It seems a distro using systemd is pretty damn UNIX-like already.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SilverMachine View Post
      People are still enthusiastic about systemd after this: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...8-root-exploit news? This is exactly the reason I've ignored systemd. Too unsafe by all the functions they added that don't even belong in an init system.
      That's kinda minor, and even then it's a drop in the bucket if compared to the shit that script-based inits can do.

      How about we discuss a laughably bad remote privilege escalation bullshit that systemd prevented like for example http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...SQL-Crit-0-Day

      that is defeated by 3 lines in the default systemd config of that service? https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...332#post897332

      Man systemd is so bad, I really need to use busybox's init instead.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by cj.wijtmans View Post
        solution: systemd-apached now integrated.
        Umm, you didn't understand the issue, do you?
        His issue is about DNS servers, like dnsmasq and systemd-resolved. Apache is not the point here.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
          FYI, might be worth it trying to raise the issue in systemd's github instead than on askubuntu or here. Pottering himself looks at the issues posted in systemd bug tracker, and posts there every now and then, among other developers.

          See here for issues opened against systemd-resolved (so you don't open an issue that exists already) https://github.com/systemd/systemd/i...stemd-resolved
          sorry to hijack, but maybe you know: is the resolvd stuff a plugin system, or file configured? instead of the stated fix, I would like to be able to connect my resolvd to a traefik instance. Can I write a plugin or some configuration file that would let me tell resolvd my particular use-case?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
            I would actually be very happy if systemd-resolved coud offer a good replacement for Dnsmasq, since is installed by default on My distro of choice, and allow me to set it in a way that it replies with localhost IP address (127.0.0.1) for every request to a .dev domain.
            Dnsmasq does a very good job helping in Web developing with Apache virtual hosts.
            I wish systemd-resolved would do this part too, so I don't have to install Dnsmasq server alongside and have 2 servers for the same thing.
            Somebody asked if it's possible to do this with systemd-resolved and the answer suggests that it's not possible.
            https://askubuntu.com/questions/9083...-configuration
            And this is what I'm using Dnsmasq for
            https://askubuntu.com/questions/2331...e-to-127-0-0-1
            I think I had a similar request some time back. Check this out: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2183
            Maybe you can chime in there

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            • #36
              Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
              ... avoid systemd, pulseaudio, networkmanger and gnome3 if you can.
              I agree 100%. Linux has been buggy garbage for the last couple years mainly because of these three components. Unfortunately people with more money than brains are making decision for the whole community these days, so avoiding these headaches is now impossible.

              Linux isn't as free (as in freedom, not booze) as it used to be. That's a real shame.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by InsideJob View Post

                I agree 100%. Linux has been buggy garbage for the last couple years mainly because of these three components. Unfortunately people with more money than brains are making decision for the whole community these days, so avoiding these headaches is now impossible.

                Linux isn't as free (as in freedom, not booze) as it used to be. That's a real shame.
                of course its as free as its always been. You are free to install and use whatever you like, you just have to put the effort in but if you want to freeload on others work then you accept what they offer or you roll your own distro.

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                • #38
                  Systemd haters are like flatearthers, only more ignorant.

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                  • #39
                    If the authorities say the earth is flat, who are we plebeians to argue?

                    Anywho, the haters appear to include Linus himself:
                    https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/6/577
                    Yeah, so I have to admit to hating this patch.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by InsideJob View Post
                      Anywho, the haters appear to include Linus himself:
                      https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/6/577
                      How about you read and try to understand the text after that fist sentence? Or at least look at the first post in the sequence? https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/6/6 Because that patch is about adding PaX-derived security hardening features to Linux kernel.

                      Can you explain how you manage to read that as "Torvalds hates systemd", I have popcorn near me.

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