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  • STrRedWolf
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    I would give Elementary OS my support, but the latest "Explicitly pay $0 for free software" controversy that erupted over Reddit, and the blog post from Elementary OS that "explained" it, reeks to me of a GPL violation. I'm going to avoid them until they had a lawyer go through every package's licence to see if they can really get away with what they're doing.

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  • dungeon
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    Article about removed blog post

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  • kenjitamura
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    This article is trash and is presenting only the Elementary OS' side of the story as factual occurrences while glossing over any details that are not advantageous for this stories shock value.

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  • entropy
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    Thanks for writing out acronyms/abbreviations once!
    That really helps and is very appreciated!

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  • Luke_Wolf
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    Originally posted by cb88 View Post
    http://www.spi-inc.org/ is a non profit.

    Extorsion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

    ... Except SPI isn't in it for the money and already have enough money to run thier various projects. So anything Elemantary OS guys say about extorsion is just bunk. If anything it looks like the negative comments were based on ideological differences.

    Streisand effect anyone? If the Elementary OS guys are in it for proffit and had a negative interaction with SPI there is absolutely nothing wrong with SPI talking about it publicly. If anything it is a healthy thing.
    Thinking that just because an organization is a "non-profit" that they're not in it for the money is naive. The reality is that 30% of the funds going to a NPO actually being used on the purpose of the charity is considered high, further exactly because of their non-profit status they are incentivized to dump money into "administration" instead in order to return to 0. The same problem is well known to occur with the military because they are also made to race to 0 in order to maintain the current size of their budget and thus a lot of money goes to waste.

    Now that said organizations like SPI, KDE e.V., The Linux Foundation, the FreeBSD foundation, etc are more likely to actually do their job because they're the governance bodies of various projects, but at the same time they're not immune to things like the "special interests" problem.

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  • asdfblah
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    Originally posted by asdfblah View Post
    ...
    Once again, more info: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comme...ementryos_for/
    I suggest you also read this: http://blog.funnelfiasco.com/?p=1652 and the corresponding reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comme...ses_the_point/

    This is the controversial phrase:

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  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by SystemCrasher View Post
    Elementary OS is known for fraud-like requests to pay for OS in download dialog. It looks for user like if it is unconditional payment, even though smartass can enter 0 and continue free of charge.
    You mean like LibreOffice?

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  • CTown
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    Is it me or the article from Drake just says that elementaryOS just needs to be more transparent? I found no hate in that article. At the same time, is it really anyone's business if the LLC representing elementary is non-profit or not? The only part that reflects bad on SPI is the aggressive sales pitch claimed by one of the elementary members (but to be fair to SPI there doesn't seem to be recorded proof of this). I refuse to believe SPI's entire credibility can be destroyed by a blog post that says elementaryOS needs to be more transparent of their funding...

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  • gotwig
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    SPI just pwned itself.

    I cant understand how you can support those *******.

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  • asdfblah
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    Originally posted by cocklover View Post
    You don't post the elementary guys calling cheaters to his users, but do you post a article based on g+ comments, nice logic.
    This.

    For those who want to read the whole story:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20150211...28530/payments (there were more comments, but those were deleted after receiving so much criticism...) and the current post: http://blog.elementaryos.org/post/110645528530/payments

    This is the blog post made by Joshua Drake (from SPI):


    This is his latest post:


    Apparently, eOS devs are playing the victim, and, as usual, Michael is ignoring the most convenient part...

    There is no problem in asking for donations or to buy open source software, but calling the users "cheaters" is a whole different thing.
    And these guys are known for their attitude:


    Some more info from reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/commen...t_open_source/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comme...elementary_os/

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