Controversy Arises Over SPI Project, Fighting With Elementary OS

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Controversy Arises Over SPI Project, Fighting With Elementary OS

While the X.Org Foundation is voting on joining SPI and the SPI already represents a range of open-source projects from PostgreSQL to Debian, this organization is being criticized this week over how they negatively interacted with the Elementary OS project...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...y-Disagreement

[cocklover]

You don't post the elementary guys calling cheaters to his users, but do you post a article based on g+ comments, nice logic.

[cb88]

No matter how the Elementary OS team responded, extortion is not condoned and makes you lose your credibility as an organization. He should have simply accepted a "no".

This is hardly extortion.... this is the internet and the signal to noise ratio is already rediculous and noone cares.

If people want to read about how bad Elementary OS or thier policies are they'll red that blog otherwise they'll just read the Elementary OS blog and become fanboys or maybe like me they'll just ignore the whole lot and post on phoronix.

[cocklover]

No matter how the Elementary OS team responded, extortion is not condoned and makes you lose your credibility as an organization. He should have simply accepted a "no".

Well yes, extortion is condemed by law. If they really extortioned Eos then they(eos) should go to the law.

[cb88]

http://www.spi-inc.org/ is a non profit.

Extorsion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.

... Except SPI isn't in it for the money and already have enough money to run thier various projects. So anything Elemantary OS guys say about extorsion is just bunk. If anything it looks like the negative comments were based on ideological differences.

Streisand effect anyone? If the Elementary OS guys are in it for proffit and had a negative interaction with SPI there is absolutely nothing wrong with SPI talking about it publicly. If anything it is a healthy thing.

[SystemCrasher]

Elementary OS is known for fraud-like requests to pay for OS in download dialog. It looks for user like if it is unconditional payment, even though smartass can enter 0 and continue free of charge. Then they also seem to consider free downloaders like thieves. Yet, granted they mostly base on projects from other people it is very quistionable attitude, to say the least. So I think it's not a big loss for SPI at all. And in SPI shoes I would not want some scam-like projects under their umbrella.

[MoonMoon]

Elementary OS is known for fraud-like requests to pay for OS in download dialog. It looks for user like if it is unconditional payment, even though smartass can enter 0 and continue free of charge. Then they also seem to consider free downloaders like thieves. Yet, granted they mostly base on projects from other people it is very quistionable attitude, to say the least. So I think it's not a big loss for SPI at all. And in SPI shoes I would not want some scam-like projects under their umbrella.

Really? They ask for money for their product? How dare they to do something that is explicitly allowed by the license and its main proponent? How scammy and fraud-like they are. What comes next, calling Red Hat a fraud for charging you for updates?

[stiiixy]

Sounds like a guy called up and rather than having a conversation, tried to sell something. Except, Elementary already know the 'sales' game because they do 'advertise' a 'donate xx' above the free download and have their own legal set up anyway.

A booboo on Party 1's side, and now trying to recover his standing with legalise (just suck it up say you fucked up and move on because now it's a us v them thing which no one will benefit from) And now it's blown out of proportion?

Either way, official statements seem to be non-existant, and mostly opinionated. I'm putting it down to a minor interwebs hiccough!

[ObiWan]

Really? They ask for money for their product? How dare they to do something that is explicitly allowed by the license and its main proponent? How scammy and fraud-like they are. What comes next, calling Red Hat a fraud for charging you for updates?

Elementary advertises itself as 100% free and called those who downloaded it without paying as cheaters.....

[MoonMoon]

Elementary advertises itself as 100% free and called those who downloaded it without paying as cheaters.....

So what? That is neither a scam nor a fraud, they just have the opinion that you should pay, but give you their product anyway, though they are actually not required to do so.