Originally posted by Maxim Levitsky
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Does VirtualBox VM Have Much A Future Left?
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I've used both VirtualBox and qemu heavily.
VirtualBox definitely has a better GUI, but libvirt is getting better all the time. The only thing it needs is better graphics support, but since libvirt is designed to allow management of the VM from a different computer to the host system, features that would break that model aren't a high priority for them.
The other issue is that the VirtualBox kernel modules are known for their terrible quality - they're the only FOSS modules which taint the kernel
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Originally posted by elapsed View PostThe only thing I need from VirtualBox is them to lift the dumb VRAM limit.
I want to run Windows in a VM for games, and I'm not really interested in installing WINE. VirtualBox isn't a solution with the VRAM limit. GPUs are coming with 4GB+ of VRAM these days and games are using more and more.
I think the limit was something ridiculous like 256MB. Totally useless and the main reason why I still have to (annoyingly) dual boot Windows, and as a result, spend a lot more time in Windows than I'd like, because of the annoyance of rebooting.
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Originally posted by MoonMoon View PostGiving you more VRAM won't help you at all. Even if you give the VM 4GB of VRAM, the virtual GPU still lacks the features and the power to run modern games. The only way around this limitation is to pass the videocard through to the VM.
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Originally posted by michael-vb View Post...I think there must be some confusion here, there are definitely more than four of us! I think reports of our death must have been slightly, should I say, exaggerated? I won't go into too any detail, but as one commenter said, take a look at our svn log to see what we are working on. Hope you will enjoy the results!
And this product is dual licensed, CDDL and GPL. Are you still using that Trojan from the Sun days?
I hope Oracle gets destroyed as soon as possible and a proper Virtualbox alternative appears. KVM looks promising, but needs a more mature SPICE and a GUI that doesn't suck.
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Originally posted by Nelson View PostVirtualBox has a fairly complete API for programmatically creating environments. libvirt nicely replaces most of that though. It doesn't seem like it should need a ton of work, it's always been a little rough, IMO, it's heavier than VMWare.
Are people leaving it because it's not updating every 3 weeks? Or is it not updating every 3 weeks because fewer people use it?
Then KVM got another obvious advantage: it is good to run Linux on Linux (to provide extra separation/area for system experiments which can break OS). Linux kernel of most distros inherently supports "better" KVM drivers ("virtio"). Which are working much faster than fully-emulated virtual hardware. In most other cases you'll need some "additions", "tools" and other custom crap. But when you run Linux on Linux, guest usually well aware how to use these better interfaces WITHOUT any extra tools installation. So guest runs at decent speed you expect from modern VM solution without messing with installing "additions".
Also, virtualization is on rise. If someone fails to find any new feature to add... this likely indicates their project got some serious issues. Since Oracle is well known for screwing up MySQL (forked as MariaDB) and OpenOffice (forked as LibreOffice), I have reasons to think VBox is about to face similar fate, too. Except nobody from Linux side would bother self to fork when there is already KVM in mainline Linux kernel. And KVM got a lot of traction - just google something like "cheap VDS", "cheap VPS", "cheap cloud VM" and get idea: yeah, this technology is not going to disappear anyhow soon and got serious market demand. Not something Vbox can afford.
I simply fail to understand why someone would use VBox. Can it do something better than competitors? For me it looks like if Oracle mostly abandoned project and there was no community to continue development either (unlike in case with MySQL or LibreOffice).
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