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  • profoundWHALE
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    Originally posted by Andrecorreia View Post
    i don t see the point of chrome OS. we cant do nothing there, its chrome nothing more
    That's the point. I work at a place that repairs computer and other jazz, and 75% of the problems are from people who have no idea what they are doing. They're not going to want to learn, there's often no point in them learning anyways. Just give them stuff that gets them email and google and call it a day.

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  • V10lator
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    Originally posted by caligula View Post
    The Android VM is almost like a secondary OS on top of Linux and BSD userland. You target this and not native platform. They also want you to not think about the lower levels.
    But the VM couldn't run without the kernel. I still fail to see why they don't need to give credit to the kernel at all.

    Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
    Eh, well... "Sailfish OS" is easy to say, while "Sailfish/Mer/GNU/Linux" is quite a mouthful; albeit the latter is certainly more informative. Though if there are no other flavours, then the distinction is rather useless, because everyone should already be aware what Sailfish OS is supposed to be made of. With the desktop (sort of ? Mer isn't a desktop framework, but I believe that it's important to count Mer users together with desktop users, as you can still run normal desktop distribution programs on Mer) distributions, there is no official name, and "GNU/Linux" is the only real thing we have to differentiate them from others (as "Linux" is just the name of the kernel).
    I see Sailfish OS as a Linux distribution. With distributions we say Gentoo/Arch/Debian/Ubuntu/whatever cause, as you noted, everyone should be aware what it is. Still Sailfish OS gives credit to the kernel, right on their homepage, in the first sentence:
    Sailfish OS : mobile-optimized with the flexibility, ubiquity and stability of the Linux core and a cutting edge user experience built with the renowned Qt? platform.

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  • GreatEmerald
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    Originally posted by TAXI View Post
    You don't need to give credit for the kernel which is the most important and most complex piece of software? Note: There is no such thing as "Linux stuff", that's called GNU (or BSD userland or Android or whatever), Linux is the kernel only.
    So why do we name our OS like the kernel on Desktop but like the userspace on mobile?
    Eh, well... "Sailfish OS" is easy to say, while "Sailfish/Mer/GNU/Linux" is quite a mouthful; albeit the latter is certainly more informative. Though if there are no other flavours, then the distinction is rather useless, because everyone should already be aware what Sailfish OS is supposed to be made of. With the desktop (sort of ? Mer isn't a desktop framework, but I believe that it's important to count Mer users together with desktop users, as you can still run normal desktop distribution programs on Mer) distributions, there is no official name, and "GNU/Linux" is the only real thing we have to differentiate them from others (as "Linux" is just the name of the kernel).

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  • caligula
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    Originally posted by TAXI View Post
    You don't need to give credit for the kernel which is the most important and most complex piece of software? Note: There is no such thing as "Linux stuff", that's called GNU (or BSD userland or Android or whatever), Linux is the kernel only.
    So why do we name our OS like the kernel on Desktop but like the userspace on mobile?
    The Android VM is almost like a secondary OS on top of Linux and BSD userland. You target this and not native platform. They also want you to not think about the lower levels.

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  • V10lator
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    Originally posted by caligula View Post
    you don't need to give credit to Linux at all.
    You don't need to give credit for the kernel which is the most important and most complex piece of software? Note: There is no such thing as "Linux stuff", that's called GNU (or BSD userland or Android or whatever), Linux is the kernel only.
    So why do we name our OS like the kernel on Desktop but like the userspace on mobile?

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  • andyprough
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    Originally posted by Andrecorreia View Post
    i don t see the point of chrome OS. we cant do nothing there, its chrome nothing more
    Stick Crouton on it and add Ubuntu or Debian and you've got a cheap, full-featured Linux laptop.

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  • caligula
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    Originally posted by BSDude View Post
    That's why they should tag it Google/Linux or Chrome/Linux to clarify the incompatibility.
    No. GNU/Linux was invented due to RMS zealots. They didn't accept the fact that Linux and modern apps mostly replaced GNU. GNU was mostly targeted towards command line. Besides many Linux systems have majority of apps not coming from GNU and can have BSD alternatives. Likewise if Android fellows feel they did the most job, you don't need to give credit to Linux at all. They even use BSD stuff instead so there's very little GNU in Android. Probably not at all. It's definitely not GNU/Android/Linux. More like 90% Android, 10% Linux. It would just hurt their sales if someone associated good phones with neckbeards.

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  • BSDude
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    Originally posted by sarmad View Post
    No, the problem is not marketing, it's a technical difference. When you say Linux people expect that you can run GNU/Linux apps on it. You cannot run GNU apps neither on Android nor on ChromeOS and that's why people, rightfully, don't think of Android or ChromeOS as Linux.
    That's why they should tag it Google/Linux or Chrome/Linux to clarify the incompatibility.

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  • sarmad
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    Originally posted by Andrecorreia View Post
    only details, the problem here is the marketing, most of people don t know android using linux kernel... i talk with people and when i talk about that their look to me with their stupid eyes!, and don?t believe in my word, because in their minds linux is a monster
    No, the problem is not marketing, it's a technical difference. When you say Linux people expect that you can run GNU/Linux apps on it. You cannot run GNU apps neither on Android nor on ChromeOS and that's why people, rightfully, don't think of Android or ChromeOS as Linux.

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  • dschinn1001
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    the percentage refers to about sold distributions !

    Most people don't see the real fact about the percentage. The percentage in public about Linux
    is only concerning sold distributions on the market of operating-systems ?! - or not ?!

    But the percentage simply by free available downloads is much higher ! I would estimate
    this between 5 and 10 percent today. Interesting will be, what comes up by March and April, when
    time of Windows XP expires. Where will 40 % of Windows XP go to ?! Windows 8 still has no
    real fall-out with sold DVDs ... normally it should be a higher percentage by now for Windows 8, but
    many dont want to buy another Windows after 7, facing the news that Windows 9 is planned for
    April 2015 (and it will have the codes of Trusty Thar in April 2014 ... ).

    It will be really interesting until end of year 2014 for Linux, and by this year, we then know
    how Linux will be more popular to more people than in the past.

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