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Originally posted by dashcloud View PostI really hope you don't have recent Intel motherboards in any of your computers- otherwise, you very likely have Intel's Management Engine as part of your BIOS/UEFI. It's a very interesting technology if you are the one controlling it- it's basically another OS inside your computer that's trusted to do everything- with it's own networking stack as well. It's also hugely undocumented, and the main reason Flashrom can't be used safely on vast numbers of recent computers with Intel motherboards.
It is intended for companies and schools and such, but its pretty creepy.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostUEFI can run in the background and can run background services behind the OS while the OS is also running.
UEFI have much more control over the system and has a built-in TCP stack.
BIOS is much more simple and can not run stuff in the background.
UEFI is much more dangerous and likely to be vulnerable, exploitable and backdoored.
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostUEFI can run in the background and can run background services behind the OS while the OS is also running.
UEFI have much more control over the system and has a built-in TCP stack.
BIOS is much more simple and can not run stuff in the background.
UEFI is much more dangerous and likely to be vulnerable, exploitable and backdoored.
The UEFI on the other side is as perverted as it gets - its just a overcomplex loader system, with DRM integrated where BIOS was. The only good outcome of it are nicer menus.... :///
I wonder why people always suck down what is thrown to them.. When will they claim PC as really "Personal Computer"??!
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Originally posted by daniels View Postyou already do, it's called the bios. or uefi.
UEFI have much more control over the system and has a built-in TCP stack.
BIOS is much more simple and can not run stuff in the background.
UEFI is much more dangerous and likely to be vulnerable, exploitable and backdoored.
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Originally posted by daniels View Postyou already do, it's called the bios. or uefi.
Also, if you cannot see the difference in a proprietary (pre)bootloader and a BIOS/UEFI firmware i cannot help you.
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Originally posted by sandy8925 View Postmatthew garrett is leaving?
Last day at Red Hat
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This is so ugly i cannot believe it is even legal to sell locked hardware like this.
The very minimum requirement should be that this key adding procedure would be doable from the UEFI specs and the computers came at most preinstalled with a microsoft key. But having to ship a binary blob just to boot your distro compromises your system even before linux has started loading The fact you can beg for a key from only microsoft to circumvent this restriction is the definition of a monopoly.
This is something EU should take notice of and force all hardware to be open, but those bureocrats only look after business interests, not peoples interestsLast edited by varikonniemi; 01 December 2012, 03:16 AM.
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