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Originally posted by uid313 View PostLets imagine that ARM kills x86.
Intel can still get an ARM license, and they have the world's most advanced semiconductor technology. Years ahead of everyone else. They could be be the #1 ARM manufacturer in the world.
@smitty3268: Isn't the desktop already dying on the consumer market?
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If ARM kill x86
Lets imagine that ARM kills x86.
Intel can still get an ARM license, and they have the world's most advanced semiconductor technology. Years ahead of everyone else. They could be be the #1 ARM manufacturer in the world.
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Originally posted by ldesnogu View PostIntel really is concerned by smartphones and tablets canibalizing laptops, most consumers don't need a laptop.
According to a friend working there, they didn't see it coming and had to change many things to start getting a foot in that market (why do you think the previous head of mobile computing, Anand Chandrasekher, "left" the company a few months ago?). So Intel won't disappear, but they surely are not sleeping that well.
Intel is already taking steps to get into the smartphone/tablet market, precisely because they are cannibalizing laptops. ARM is obviously a big time player there.
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostCool story, bro.
I'm sure a few people out there could use an ARM laptop, especially if it's marketed as a nettop super-cheap laptop.
I just don't think Intel is losing any sleep over it.
Maybe you should do such a list too, and then start fixing the highest priority ones that don't scale. Then you too can move to low powered, highly threaded cpus in the future
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostI'm sure a few people out there could use an ARM laptop, especially if it's marketed as a nettop super-cheap laptop.
I just don't think Intel is losing any sleep over it.
According to a friend working there, they didn't see it coming and had to change many things to start getting a foot in that market (why do you think the previous head of mobile computing, Anand Chandrasekher, "left" the company a few months ago?). So Intel won't disappear, but they surely are not sleeping that well.
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Originally posted by curaga View PostHorrible usability that way, both due to separate keyboard (usually even bluetooth, so sucking batteries) and due to Android. Before you say Vivaldi, I wouldn't really want a tablet in general.
From my POV, almost everything does. 90% of time I have a browser open; that's threaded / runs multiple processes. Gimp - runs OpenCL now. Deving - yup. Mplayer - yup.
Yikes, now that I think about it, I have a hard time finding anything I use often that's single-threaded. Even my email client is multithreaded.
I'm sure a few people out there could use an ARM laptop, especially if it's marketed as a nettop super-cheap laptop.
I just don't think Intel is losing any sleep over it.
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostI'm highly skeptical of any attempt to make an ARM chip competitive with Intel on the desktop. Intel's manufacturing capabilities give it a large advantage over everyone else, and the ARM companies have no experience building those kinds of chips.
Where they can succeed is in the server space, where efficiency and power usage are important, and they can easily scale to many cores to provide performance.
It doesn't need high-performance, it just needs to be low-power while strong enough to run a web browser.
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostYou can already buy a tablet and attach an external keyboard.
The problem with a 32-core ARM laptop is that nothing on the desktop uses 32-cores, and each one individually is way too slow.
Yikes, now that I think about it, I have a hard time finding anything I use often that's single-threaded. Even my email client is multithreaded.
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