A Christmas Eve Wine Release (v1.3.10)

[deanjo]

You can also flip your preferred sound device with phonon as well.

[Mr James]

What about alsa-mixer?

[ChrisXY]

What happens when you plug in a USB headphone? Another sound device.

You set your default soundcard with "asoundconf set-default-card X" where X is one of the things you see with "asoundconf list". You then configure the applications you want to use with the headphones to use the headphones.
If you have an application that you want to use with another card than the default card it is likely a specialized sort of "audio-software". If it doesn't support setting the default sound output then it is deficient and you should file a bug report.

I really wonder why asoundconf still isn't in alsa since it is like a default tool.

[deanjo]

I find it funny how all pulse haters are full of big words, then when somebody asks them for help regarding alsa configs they almost always turn out to be completely clueless.

LMFAO, I do tonnes of aiding others with their setups. This is why I see how pulse so miserably fails. A good 75% of the time when someone has audio issues it is with pulse. A vast majority of those times getting the person to remove pulse fixes the issue.

False again. What happens when you plug in a USB headphone? Another sound device. What do all headphones come with? That's right, a USB adapter. What about bluetooth devices? Someone with "extensive knowledge" should know this. I'm so tired of these empty arguments.

LMFAO, seriously, if you think that USB headphone / Bluetooth users are the norm you are out there on Planet X. Most people use plain jane 2 speaker setups. Most headphones come with a USB plug? Bullshit, most are 1/8" or 1/4" plugs. People serious about their cans also don't use USB headphones (most have really shitty amplification).

[Xilanaz]

Still no PulseAudio support. Meh.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the long term plan to create a mmdevapi -> openAL which then would solve most if not all sound issues they now having ?

[unimatrix]

Pure alsa works fine. I have a huge extensive selection of soundcards and it has been a painless solution for years.

I find it funny how all pulse haters are full of big words, then when somebody asks them for help regarding alsa configs they almost always turn out to be completely clueless.

For most people, they only have 1 soundcard

False again. What happens when you plug in a USB headphone? Another sound device. What do all headphones come with? That's right, a USB adapter. What about bluetooth devices? Someone with "extensive knowledge" should know this. I'm so tired of these empty arguments.

[snuwoods]

I've found alsa to work fine alone.
On both my laptop and desktop.

[deanjo]

Wrong. Pure alsa is an end-user nightmare.

Pure alsa works fine. I have a huge extensive selection of soundcards and it has been a painless solution for years.

It is pretty much impossible to configure it in ways that pulse can do with a few clicks. It only works "fine" if you only have one sound card or you are satisfied with complex static configurations.

For most people, they only have 1 soundcard. Even with multiple cards Alsa is fairly pain free. In KDE 4 all that is needed for example to flip sound sources is to flip the preferred device in Phonon.

Also, saying that pulse causes issues only shows how little you know of the subject, as most of the problems are there due to various bugs in Alsa.

Actually I have extensive knowledge in audio in linux. Some bugs may exist alsa however removing pulse and reverting to pure alsa all to often resolves the issue.

[unimatrix]

Pure alsa works fine. Pulseaudio just adds another layer of complexity which seems to cause more issues then it is worth. Ironically pulseaudio was supposed to improve compatibility among apps but so far it has proven to be the exact opposite.

Wrong. Pure alsa is an end-user nightmare. It is pretty much impossible to configure it in ways that pulse can do with a few clicks. It only works "fine" if you only have one sound card or you are satisfied with complex static configurations. Also, saying that pulse causes issues only shows how little you know of the subject, as most of the problems are there due to various bugs in Alsa.

[deanjo]

I'd rather like them to plant a solid ALSA driver that works with Pulseaudio and have all the problems fixed instead of four crappy sound drivers...

Pure alsa works fine. Pulseaudio just adds another layer of complexity which seems to cause more issues then it is worth. Ironically pulseaudio was supposed to improve compatibility among apps but so far it has proven to be the exact opposite.