The Huge Disaster Within The Linux 2.6.35 Kernel

[mtippett]

Ubuntu kernels?????? phormaix uses Ubuntu kernels? I think that makes the whole thing even less useful.
Are you sure you don't want to use plain mainline?

Yikes. Do a modicum of research before making broad assertions...

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/2010-05-30-lucid/BUILD.LOG

Look at the details. Just a packaging and that's about it. It's the way that Canonical monitors upstream.

You have the config, you have the commit hash. Where's the concern?

[deanjo]

and suse for "patching" packages in incompatible ways.

Would you mind expanding on that?

[cynyr]

Would you mind expanding on that?

Back in 2004 upstream xorg DRM drivers would not build against Suse/redhat mesa. In the end to get an "exotic" variant of a ati mach64 card working I ended up on gentoo and have been there ever since. With Suse and redhat I eneded up needing something like all of X on up from CVS, and i needed to run a stock kernel. The stock kernel didn't work with suse's init scripts, I forget exactly what the problem was, but it would get partway though boot and then just bail out, and almost nothing got started.

This was also back when 2.4.x kernels were stable so distro's were carrying a huge set of backports from 2.5.x for their 2.4.x kernels. Things seem to have gotten a lot better, but I don't know for sure as i haven't played with much outside of Gentoo/Arch for a long time now. I never am able to get ubuntu installed in a VM to give it a spin.

[sabriah]

Yikes. Do a modicum of research before making broad assertions...

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/2010-05-30-lucid/BUILD.LOG

Look at the details. Just a packaging and that's about it. It's the way that Canonical monitors upstream.

You have the config, you have the commit hash. Where's the concern?

Maybe I don't get it.

On http://www.phoromatic.com/kernel-tracker.php
it says

Kernel: 2.6.33-999-generic (i686)

On http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa...ucid/BUILD.LOG
it says

full_version<2.6.34>
version<2.6.34>
long<v2.6.34-8406-g52b0ace>
abinum<999>

To me one says 2.6.34 and one says 2.6.33.

I don't get it, yet.

[mtippett]

Maybe I don't get it.

On http://www.phoromatic.com/kernel-tracker.php
it says 2.6.33

Yes, that is the initial version that the device deployed with. Phoromatic should update that data to the most recent version reported.

On http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa...ucid/BUILD.LOG
it says 2.6.34

To me one says 2.6.34 and one says 2.6.33.

I don't get it, yet.

The issue wasn't about the version numbers, it was about the "It's an Ubuntu variant, so it's worthless". In reality it is an ubuntu packaging of a vanilla upstream. A couple of clicks and you can determine the commit hash.

[Michael]

Maybe I don't get it.

On http://www.phoromatic.com/kernel-tracker.php
it says


On http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/2010-05-30-lucid/BUILD.LOG
it says



To me one says 2.6.34 and one says 2.6.33.

I don't get it, yet.

The one on the kernel tracker page that says 2.6.33, note that it's the retired (dead) 32-bit Atom system that is no longer even used. Last Communication: 2010-03-04 06:59:58 Current Task: Offline

[sabriah]

The one on the kernel tracker page that says 2.6.33, note that it's the retired (dead) 32-bit Atom system that is no longer even used. Last Communication: 2010-03-04 06:59:58 Current Task: Offline

Now that you mention it I'm initiated too!

Thanks!

[darkbasic]

If more readers actually became Premium subscribers or did not use AdBlock, it might actually be possible

I just disabled adblock plus, but it's slow as hell with the ads

[stevea]

OMG what drama

this is a .35-rc1 kernel for crying out loud!

beside that, the quality of articles here on phoronix has been nose diving for a while now. I'm even beginning to get annoyed.

Michael, you have to do better and you can because it was good in the beginning. Articles like this are total crap and do you and your site no service at all

+1

Such alarmist baloney over a beta regression. Worth an article, but the needy attention seeking titles recently are shameful.

[V!NCENT]

Worth an article, but the needy attention seeking titles recently are shameful.

Who cares? Everything with Linux, X, DRI, DRM, Gallium, DDX, and *gl in the title I read anyway