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  • phoronix
    started a topic Reiser4 May Go For Mainline Inclusion In 2010

    Reiser4 May Go For Mainline Inclusion In 2010

    Phoronix: Reiser4 May Go For Mainline Inclusion In 2010

    The Reiser4 file-system has been around since 2004 but has not reached a point of being close to be included in the mainline Linux kernel, especially after the lead developer, Hans Reiser, was convicted of murdering his wife. Development of Reiser4 has continued on, albeit with a very limited number of developers, and not nearly at the brisk pace of Btrfs or with great interest by corporate parties...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzY4OQ

  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by energyman View Post
    only for people with zero good taste and no common sense.
    'killer' has long been used for marketing 'eliteness' (such as the killer NIC) it would just so happen that it would carry a double meaning for RieserFS and fittingly so.

    adj.1. Causing death or destruction: killer floods.
    2. Slang Having impressive or effective power or impact; formidable: had a killer smile; made killer profits.
    Last edited by deanjo; 12-05-2009, 02:50 PM.

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  • Ant P.
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    This naming thing is still going on 2 years later?

    Just call it R Filesystem already. Everyone else names things after letters of the alphabet.

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  • Apopas
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    Meh, it's the first time I agree with deanjo

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  • energyman
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    Originally posted by deanjo View Post
    I always thought renaming it to killerfs would be the obvious choice.
    only for people with zero good taste and no common sense.

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  • deanjo
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    Originally posted by energyman View Post
    Ok, maybe it would be better to rename it to edward-fs.
    I always thought renaming it to killerfs would be the obvious choice.

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  • energyman
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    Originally posted by Jimmy View Post
    I have no problems with the FS or people using it. I have problems with people who trivialize murder. I'm sorry but I have no respect for someone who becomes an apologist for Hans Riser's acts of violence.
    A lot of people treated him like a murderer even before the trial started. My position was and is:
    innocent until proven guilty.

    He was proven guilty - by his own acts, and there is nothing to discuss left. He killed her. He is a murderer.

    BUT: that has zero to do with the filesystem.

    Ok, maybe it would be better to rename it to edward-fs.

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  • sabriah
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    Originally posted by energyman View Post
    so he killed his wife. And that makes reiser4 a bad fs?

    Do you refuse to eat vegetables? Corn? wheat? Because Haber also was big in gas making in WW1. What about TV? Satelites are brought into the sky by rockets. All modern rockets are decendants of the V2 - and Braun was directly responsible for 10 thousands of deaths.

    Go back to the technical merits. Reiser4 is fast. Reiser4 reduces head movement on harddisks. Reiser4 puts data safety first.

    Unlike ext3/4 or xfs.
    No, Reiser4 used to be an ambitious and well managed file system, before Hans Reiser killed his wife. In fact it was a bit too ambitious, as it originally took over aspects managed by other parts in the kernel. That is why it has taken so long to integrate. Reiser was initially not willing to step down on many details. And, after he was arrested it took the others even more time before they could get up to his speed and devotion.

    I used to run Reiser3, as it was among the best when it came. I have no doubt the new fs will be among the best too.


    As for the naming, we don't call those rockets the von Braun rockets. We don't call the Animal Welfare Act the Hitler Act (or even worse, The Hitler Welfare Act) even if Hitler introduced the first ever Animal Welfare Act in the world, banning animal experiments etc. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_...n_Nazi_Germany) I think many people would object to that and find it repulsive. Guillotine's invention has a built-in irony, which perhaps makes it more excusable. There are many more sad examples I guess.

    The file system need not to be abandoned, just that repulsive name.

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  • yogi_berra
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    Originally posted by Jimmy View Post
    I have no problems with the FS or people using it. I have problems with people who trivialize murder. I'm sorry but I have no respect for someone who becomes an apologist for Hans Riser's acts of violence.
    He wasn't trivializing murder, he was making a distinction between the supposed technical merits of the File System and the developer that it is named after. Granted he could have provided solid evidence instead of anecdotal, but hey its the internet you can't expect to be handed facts here.

    I'm not surprised Hans was shanked, the majority of people on the planet won't put up with the way some developers act.

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  • Jimmy
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    Originally posted by energyman View Post
    so he killed his wife. And that makes reiser4 a bad fs?
    I have no problems with the FS or people using it. I have problems with people who trivialize murder. I'm sorry but I have no respect for someone who becomes an apologist for Hans Riser's acts of violence.

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