systemd 257 Debuts With systemd-keyutil & systemd-sbsign Tools, Other Improvements

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  • phoronix
    Administrator
    • Jan 2007
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    systemd 257 Debuts With systemd-keyutil & systemd-sbsign Tools, Other Improvements

    Phoronix: systemd 257 Debuts With systemd-keyutil & systemd-sbsign Tools, Other Improvements

    Coincidentally coming one day after the GNU Shepherd 1.0 service manager release, the systemd 257 release is now shipping as the newest feature release for this widely-used service manager / init system to Linux systems. Systemd 257 brings a number of new features and improvements for powering late 2024 and early 2025 Linux distributions...

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  • shmerl
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 3495

    #2
    What's the story with systemd - some recent update in Debian testing started blocking in the middle of the boot until I press Enter. Is it some known issue with it? Never seen it before.

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    • intelfx
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2018
      • 1083

      #3
      Originally posted by shmerl View Post
      What's the story with systemd - some recent update in Debian testing started blocking in the middle of the boot until I press Enter. Is it some known issue with it? Never seen it before.
      Perhaps it would be best to ask on a Debian forum (and also attach more details, like whether the blocking is preceded by any messages, you know the drill).

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      • shmerl
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 3495

        #4
        I thought it might be something common for systemd. But if it's super obscure, I'll dig around Debian community.

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        • F.Ultra
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 2030

          #5
          Originally posted by shmerl View Post
          What's the story with systemd - some recent update in Debian testing started blocking in the middle of the boot until I press Enter. Is it some known issue with it? Never seen it before.
          AFAIK systemd has no input interaction so this sounds like it was some script running that required input (probably some Y/N prompt).

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          • juxuanu
            Phoronix Member
            • Nov 2020
            • 109

            #6
            Does anyone know what's tangential to both SystemD and sbctl?

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            • mb_q
              Senior Member
              • May 2017
              • 222

              #7
              The JSON-API part is confusing, what we are getting is a yet another, home-grown JSON codec library in C, but which can only handle Systemd-specific structs. So I guess it defines a brand new JSON-based string format: the JSOND (;

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              • Espionage724
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2024
                • 322

                #8
                Lol that "deleting too many files by accident" line sounds like an understatement https://www.phoronix.com/news/system...es-purge-drama

                But improvements are nice! The musl C patches sound interesting, but the one distro I heard of really using musl (Void) uses a different init https://docs.voidlinux.org/config/services/index.html

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                • caligula
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 3313

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Espionage724 View Post
                  Lol that "deleting too many files by accident" line sounds like an understatement https://www.phoronix.com/news/system...es-purge-drama

                  But improvements are nice! The musl C patches sound interesting, but the one distro I heard of really using musl (Void) uses a different init https://docs.voidlinux.org/config/services/index.html
                  runit used by void is a joke. Yea, it has the concept of "services", but e.g. services can't depend on each other. You have to do it manually. Maybe add some sleep delays to force a certain order of execution. No sane person uses that kind of crap in 2020s.

                  Alpine Linux uses musl as well. I really hope they'd at least make it possible to use systemd as an alternative to the default init system.

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                  • intelfx
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2018
                    • 1083

                    #10
                    Originally posted by caligula View Post
                    Alpine Linux uses musl as well. I really hope they'd at least make it possible to use systemd as an alternative to the default init system.
                    The postmarketOS maintainers (which itself is built around Alpine) have in the past had expressed a strong desire to use systemd instead of Alpine's openrc, so this might be closer than one'd think.

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