Microsoft Makes An Interesting Improvement To Kernel Modules With Linux 6.13

[CommunityMember]

Why are they allowing an evil company like Microsoft to submit code that improves Linux performance?

Given that almost all of the contributions to the Linux Kernel (including Linus's multi-million dollar salary) is funded by one or more "big business" interests I wonder what you propose going forward? Fork Linux 0.01 (the original release) and only allow people who work for free and sleep on their friend's couches to contribute?

Linux exists in it's current form precisely because big (evil) businesses have decided there is something in it for them and are paying people to improve the kernel. There is no going back at this point.

[erniv2]

The question is what is the win here ? so in the loading phase you have to keep two copies of the module in ram, and the writable copy is later unloaded and then it can use large pages, but that only realy applies to modules >2Mb in size and only increases complexity for smaller modules that use the 4k pages, or do i miss something here ?

[sophisticles]

That's because these days it's "cool" to make fun of the regulations and protections we've had for so long that we've forgotten why they're even there. Raw Milk, Vaccines, Environmental Regulations, Funding Schools, Free Software, High Income Taxes....

What?!?

Reread what you wrote and then tell me it makes sense to you.

It took a combination of developers to make the original GNU/Linux that needed the help and protection from organizations like the FSF and the EFF to not be stifled by the corporations so that a FOSS ecosystem of developers and software could thrive well enough to need testing and benchmarking which could be fulfilled by an origination like Phoronix.

This is factually wrong.

Richard Stallman started the GNU project back in 1983 and in 1985 he founded the FSF to raise money so he could pay developers to make software that the GNU Project could give away for free.

Make no mistake, Stallman used the GNU Project and the FSF as a cash cow to raise money and make himself rich.

Why do you think Linus decided to create a kernel for the GNU Project?

Because he wanted to get his beak wet also.

And it worked out for him very nicely.

These people are all scam artists, suckering the general public to make bank.

[sophisticles]

The simple answer is because we're not North Korea where we punish subsequent generations for the previous generation's actions. The position of, "Well, you were a bit of a monopolized dick back in the day so toss off." and then never giving them a chance at redemption by participating in the currently agreed upon ethically and morally correct manners is a rather fucked up position to have. Dare I say it, that's a rather fascist and authoritarian take to have. That doesn't describe the kind of place where I'd want to live.

To ask an different, yet equal, question, why should we allow a person like Kent to submit code to Linux? He just messed up. He broke the rules. That would then make him "evil". I guess in your world Kent should never get to commit to the kernel ever again. He's evil. Evil people are right out. That's promoting Rules without Redemption. You should be ashamed of yourself for even promoting such a horrible concept. Everyone makes mistakes. Not letting people, companies, governments, or anything else own up to whatever was done, try to make things right, tp do right going forward, or whatever is applicable ... not having the compassion or empathy to allow for redemption or acceptance of apology is what I think is evil.

My post went right over your head, didn't it?

[sophisticles]

None. He's judging Microsoft mostly based on their past actions which were done under different managers and leadership. At the same time, he's using Past Precedent from the Court of Public Opinion continue a narrative that may or may not be true. All of Microsoft is Evil. All Immigrants are Rapists. All Germans had Fuhrer Furor. Kent always causes drama. It's a hardline, authoritarian position using simple, small words to push a narrative of fear and mistrust.

The problem with the Court of Public Opinion is that the only way for an entity like Microsoft or Germany to show they've changed is to actually allow them to show that they've changed. By completely banning Microsoft from the kernel by calling them Evil, that's, well, the closest equivalent that I can think of is being shunned from a church and town. He's Proposing the Shunning of Microsoft by The Church of Linus Torvalds and the Linux Foundation Saints.

If you keep on pushing the same narrative then Microsoft from the Past will become America's "Immigrant" problem where the mythical "Evil Immigrant" is the cause of all our problems and the solution is to ... make America less accepting and open to others which was one of the damn points of America to begin with.

If it wasn't for Evil Microsoft pushing Windows 98 then Wayland wouldn't have such a slow adoption rate. We're the Open and Free folks. The solution to all our problems is to not let anyone else be Open and Free and to not let anyone else who has made a mistake have the chance at being Open and Free again. We need to put Microsoft on the Commit Offender Registry.

At some point all that hatred has become Backwards Logic.

OK, kudos, this is really good trolling, so good in fact that it's really very difficult to not take the bait.

Nice job.

[sophisticles]

God Bless Trump.

You know what the ironic thing is?

People like you, and the other poster, are mocking Trump and those that voted for him, claiming he's only for himself and his billionaire buddies yet and that somehow Liberals are for the little man yet Trump is the only presidential candidate, from any party, that has promised the following:

No taxes on tips
No taxes on overtime pay
No taxes on Social Security payments

This is why I decided to vote for him, because even though not a single one of these will benefit me directly, the benefits to the overall economy will be tremendous and will prove that lower taxes are good for everyone, not just the super rich,.

If he can keep these three promises and negotiate an end to both the Russia/Ukraine war and the Israeli/Hamas war/slaughter, then his second term will go down in history as one of the best of any two term president.

[mobadboy]

You know what the ironic thing is?

People like you, and the other poster, are mocking Trump and those that voted for him, claiming he's only for himself and his billionaire buddies yet and that somehow Liberals are for the little man yet Trump is the only presidential candidate, from any party, that has promised the following:

No taxes on tips
No taxes on overtime pay
No taxes on Social Security payments

This is why I decided to vote for him, because even though not a single one of these will benefit me directly, the benefits to the overall economy will be tremendous and will prove that lower taxes are good for everyone, not just the super rich,.

If he can keep these three promises and negotiate an end to both the Russia/Ukraine war and the Israeli/Hamas war/slaughter, then his second term will go down in history as one of the best of any two term president.

I'm not mocking anyone.

It's true that Trump was the best president in history because he built that wall. Nobody else could do that. It was a resounding success. I heard from eyes on the ground that illegals can only happen if a corrupt border patrol officer sheriff airman let them in.

He's also the one MAN who can stop Palestine. Nobody supports Israel more than President Trump. He will make sure that every Illegal arab will be expelled to where they came from and there will be forever lasting peace in the middle east. Iran? off the map. Lebanon? Cya. The end. It's That Easy. Trump carries the nuclear football with him wherever he goes and he does anything he wants. It always works.

With Obama, we had the terrible misfortune of recovering from the Great Recession and becoming, once again, the most prosperous country in the world. Under Trump we had the best term in history because it was the best term in history and it was so good that it was just that good. It just couldn't have been better under Trump. Except by Trump, of course. If he said it, it became true. Abortion? Banned. Abortion? Legalized. Fox news say something good? Fox news best news network the world's ever seen. Fox news say something bad? Straight to jail for founder but, as always, the deep swamp says no. News reporter say something bad? Tweet about them 20 times. It's the MAN way.

Who cares about presidential responsibilities when the mostly Manly Men tweet all day. I've never seen a more victimized poor MANLY MAN in history.

[sophisticles]

Given that almost all of the contributions to the Linux Kernel (including Linus's multi-million dollar salary) is funded by one or more "big business" interests I wonder what you propose going forward? Fork Linux 0.01 (the original release) and only allow people who work for free and sleep on their friend's couches to contribute?

Linux exists in it's current form precisely because big (evil) businesses have decided there is something in it for them and are paying people to improve the kernel. There is no going back at this point.

I take it you have never read any of my posts on this forum?

And you clearly missed the sarcastic tone and emojis.

[sophisticles]

With Obama, we had the terrible misfortune of recovering from the Great Recession and becoming, once again, the most prosperous country in the world.

Please show me the Obama policy or policies that was/were directly responsible for this.

[yump]

Christ, do y'all ever quit? Only one of you has been even slightly funny.