ReiserFS Has Been Deleted From The Linux Kernel

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  • degrees57
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2018
    • 9

    #51
    I too really liked ReiserFS back in the day. I had a server with 120 million small files (legacy email archive server) and ReiserFS was speedy. It was great. Although I've heard that XFS has no problem with a large quantity of files, from what I gather it is better optimized for large files.

    When I migrated my server to a new box, we put it on ext4. Everything on it went slower after that. However, it was an email archive server, so not a lot of people (me and one other guy) used it much.

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    • sophisticles
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2015
      • 2591

      #52
      Originally posted by IGnatius T Foobar View Post
      Bill Gates has caused far more deaths than Hans Reiser ever did. Why is Windows allowed to continue to exist?
      Now this is stupid!!!

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      • sophisticles
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2015
        • 2591

        #53
        Originally posted by NotMine999 View Post
        I am shocked ... SHOCKED I SAY ... that Michael hasn't learned that his readers do not like clickbaity articles or articles that are posted to invite Moronix-style comments.

        So, it's Michael's site ... let him F it up any which way he wants just so he can rake in a few more pageviews, click streams, and pennies worth of advertising revenue.

        Honestly, if I were in charge I would have still posted this article since it is relevant news, but I would have turned off forum comments immediately after posting the article. Now I know why I don't run websites ... I tend to make rational decisions based on passed experiences ... unlike Michael.
        In all fairness, this website is a business to Michael, how he makes his living and he has said things numerous times over the years that show this is his money maker.

        He routinely complains about the usage of ad blockers and the declining ad rates, he routinely runs specials for lifetime subscriptions and in one of the Lunar Lake articles he said that he bought a laptop with his own money for about $1400 and that the break even point, i.e. the point at which he will recoup his $1400 was about three or four articles depending on how many people read and comment.

        So he knows how much money each article will generate and he clearly wants people commenting.

        It's a business and rightfully so.

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        • energyman
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 1754

          #54
          Originally posted by degrees57 View Post
          I too really liked ReiserFS back in the day. I had a server with 120 million small files (legacy email archive server) and ReiserFS was speedy. It was great. Although I've heard that XFS has no problem with a large quantity of files, from what I gather it is better optimized for large files.

          When I migrated my server to a new box, we put it on ext4. Everything on it went slower after that. However, it was an email archive server, so not a lot of people (me and one other guy) used it much.
          I remember moving a huge mail archive from ext2, disk almost full, extremely slow to reiserfs and suddenly the same sized disk wasn't even half full and I did not need to take a break searching some emails....

          reiserfs3 was great in its days. Sadly Redhat was extremely hostile to it (not invented here syndrome has always been strong with RH). Also especially in the early days a lot of vfs changes caused subtle bugs the vfs devs did not bother to check for or fix in reiserfs. Again, strong NIH syndrome showing.

          But it was a good fs back then. The important point: back then. When the alternatives were ext2 and jfs.... and later xfs which had its own pile of problems.

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          • PuckPoltergeist
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 477

            #55
            Originally posted by energyman View Post
            reiserfs3 was great in its days. Sadly Redhat was extremely hostile to it (not invented here syndrome has always been strong with RH). Also especially in the early days a lot of vfs changes caused subtle bugs the vfs devs did not bother to check for or fix in reiserfs. Again, strong NIH syndrome showing.
            Was Al Viro a RH employee? Don't remember this. And to be honest, Hans was a very problematic developer/maintainer too. Whatever the problems with RH were, ReiserFS was default for SuSE and fucked up there.

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            • Weasel
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 4501

              #56
              "We don't break userspace" huh...

              Unable to mount a filesystem is not considered breaking it?

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              • PuckPoltergeist
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 477

                #57
                Originally posted by Weasel View Post
                "We don't break userspace" huh...

                Unable to mount a filesystem is not considered breaking it?
                Announced years ago and now done, yes it's not a breaking, just a change. Not the first API-change, not the last, just a weasel weeping around

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                • ayumu
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 661

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Ezakimak View Post

                  Tux3 was actively developed into 2020. It's only gone stale since then. It was nearly merged into mainline a couple of times, but was blocked for mostly non-technical reasons.
                  The mistake was to target Linux. People keep making this mistake, despite the black history Linux has with tribal rejection of new filesystems.

                  There are many OSs out there which have quite solid APIs for filesystems to attach to, imposing an order of magnitude less effort.

                  Just go and make a good FS for netbsd, dragonfly, haiku, reactos, genode, lionsos or anything else really. It doesn't have to be Linux. If Linux is interested, they can put the effort themselves to port it or reimplement it for their shitty kernel.

                  If I have to use linux, I just stick to ZFS, even if not in mainline, as it's about the one and only option that doesn't suck outright.

                  Eventually, Linux will not matter anyway.

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                  • Siuoq
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 127

                    #59
                    Originally posted by energyman View Post
                    I remember moving a huge mail archive from ext2, disk almost full, extremely slow to reiserfs and suddenly the same sized disk wasn't even half full and I did not need to take a break searching some emails....

                    reiserfs3 was great in its days. Sadly Redhat was extremely hostile to it (not invented here syndrome has always been strong with RH). Also especially in the early days a lot of vfs changes caused subtle bugs the vfs devs did not bother to check for or fix in reiserfs. Again, strong NIH syndrome showing.

                    But it was a good fs back then. The important point: back then. When the alternatives were ext2 and jfs.... and later xfs which had its own pile of problems.
                    Why "back then"? You mean that ext4 and xfs good enough now?

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                    • slalomsk8er
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 368

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Adarion View Post
                      Farewell, old ReiserFS. It was good while it lasted. I will fondly remember the days on my VIA C3-2 laptop with some IDE-HDD and Reiser 3 was actually by far the fastest when it came to handling many small files (e.g. extract or delete a Gentoo portage tree, tons of small files). I will check if I still have some Reiser 3.6 file systems around (iirc. I found one HDD with a ReiserFS on it last year floating around here).
                      Yes, I used it also last while I used Gentoo on spinning rust and it had great performance and it didn't eat my data.
                      So also from me a Farewell and thanks for the fish.

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