Originally posted by mobadboy
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systemd 257-rc2 Released With New systemd-keyutil Tool
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Originally posted by Britoid View PostThought people liked the purist "DO ONE THING AND DO IT WELL" thing?
Which makes the believe that systemd is a single program instead of the name of the project/community/vendor which has several programs.
Each of them specialized for its job and working well together with the others.
Like the GNU tools but using more structured data exchange than text over input/output streams
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Originally posted by Kjell View Post
There's systems like Artix which do most of the heavy lifting for lazy people
The days of defining a script for every single startup are dead, and good riddance.
Any distribution with "It uses real init systems, because PID1 must be simple, secure and stable." big and bold on the frontpage has automatically disqualified itself for saying something so dumb and stupid. I could never trust something which states something so silly. systemd is, in fact, a real init system and works perfectly well as long as you're not trying to treat it like sysvinit which was horrible and bad.
alpine doesn't use systemd while it also doesn't say something so dumb and stupid, thereby making it an actual candidate for consideration.
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Originally posted by mobadboy View Postalpine doesn't use systemd while it also doesn't say something so dumb and stupid, thereby making it an actual candidate for consideration.
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Originally posted by Kjell View Post
You might find Chimera Linux interesting
Another side of the coin is the so-called “systemd-free community”, which tends to spread a lot of misconceptions and frankly deranged opinions that end up hurting any sort of positive effort. Chimera as a project denounces such people, and is explicitly not a part of this community. Such people should also not view Chimera as some sort of haven, because it is not. The project is explicitly anti-elitist and aims to find constructive solutions.
average age is at least 10 years older in that project
there are a whole variety of reetee distributions that say stupid nonsense about systemd that is just so obviously untrue as to not help their cause. antiX and now arctix seem the most prominent.
i enjoy systemd, it has made using linux daily 9001x times easier. i have no intention of stopping unless something better comes along for all my use-cases. but seeking feature-equivalent alternatives without being dumb and stupid is (obviously) totally reasonable.
look at this "simple rc.d startup script" LOOOOOOOL
Code:# cat /etc/rc.d/test #!/bin/sh . /etc/rc.subr case $1 in start) msg "Starting test daemon..." start_daemon /usr/bin/test --example-option ;; stop) msg "Stopping test daemon..." stop_daemon /usr/bin/test ;; restart) $0 stop sleep 1 $0 start ;; status) status_daemon /usr/bin/test ;; *) echo "usage: $0 [start|stop|restart|status]" ;; esac
openrc, runit etc seem much better but still not for me. but that doesnt matter, im not their desired user.Last edited by mobadboy; 18 November 2024, 11:59 PM.
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Originally posted by Kjell View Post
Did you read the article?
"Systemd 257-rc1 introduced expanded Varlink support, MPTCP as a supported socket protocol for socket units, systemd-boot menu support for volume up/down rocker handling, a new systemd-sbsign tool for signing EFI PE binaries, and many other new additions and other changes. [...] there is one new tool included in the form of systemd-keyutil."
TLDR: systemd-257 added more bloat
Systemd can't even do one thing properly like shut down the system
A stop job is running for Session c1 of user work (2min 17s / 3min 30s)
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Originally posted by mobadboy View PostLMFAO. even if its formatted correctly, which the forum doesn't allow, it's still complete shit. should be deleted from the internet.
openrc, runit etc seem much better but still not for me. but that doesnt matter, im not their desired user.
Dinit syntax should be more familiar to systemd fans
Service monitoring / "init" system. Contribute to davmac314/dinit development by creating an account on GitHub.
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